To think these teachers should be sacked?

[JosephineCD]

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/primaryeducation/9359632/Teachers-tell-pupils-not-to-offer-seats-to-disabled-passengers-for-safety-reasons.html

Teachers ordered children not to stand up on a train in order to give their seats to a disabled lady and an elderly war veteran. Is it any wonder that kids are leaving school completely fucked up when they have teachers like this? They need to be sacked. There's no excuse for this.

yes, I live abroad

LineRunner Wed 27-Jun-12 20:12:38
That story looks like a complete load of bollocks to me.
Most of it's made up

Yes. DP is a london primary HT. his school does sensible risk assesment. not this kind of la la rubbish.

slow news day me thinks...

The teachers were probably not aware of what happened, otherwise it is likely they would have moved themselves.

If it was the Suez Crisis Line he could be about 76ish? Or maybe only 74 ...

Why blame the children for not standing and not the others on the carriage, the article states they were taking up MOST of it so there must have been other adults around who could have offered a seat.

I think unless there is no other option when so many children of that age are travelling then them being seated is the ideal option.

It was the tube as well..... They skid to a halt, and in the mayhem of getting on/off a child could easily be pushed out onto the platform. Travel them with my own dc. And keeping an eye on 3 of them is hard enough!

"There is a lot of sense in insisting that a load of over-excitable children stay in their seats instead of milling around the train"

A load? For just two adults in need? Now who's being hysterical gamerwidow? Plus, if the teachers are capable of doing their job properly those two children standing should not be milling around the train, whether they'e over-excited or not.

Story says that the lady asked some of the children. Not that she asked the teachers. If the children had been told firmly at the beginning of the trip "you are not allowed to stand up" they probably just repeated this.

Article doesn't say if the teachers were sitting.

I remember my younger brother being in accident on a school trip on a bus when it breaked suddenly, he was sat in the middle back seat and went flying down the aisle. Guess what, he laughed, got back up and sat down, and nobody got sued. What has happened since then that has made everyone sue-crazy? Oh, that's right, a culture of entitlement. Thanks Labour!

Zzzen, I like the sound of your country far better than my own in this instance. Can I come and join you please? I can bring DC who have the manners and sense to stand for someone in need too!

OP, did you even read the article before posting? The school were not aware she was disabled. Which leads me to believe she may have slightly embellished the rest of her article.

I can't believe anyone would think teachers should be sacked for this. How silly.

Yes Salmo the Suez Crisis! I think that muttering as he got off the train that he's 'fought in Egypt for this country' is putting a strange spin on a quick-and-disastrous military outing that ended the British Empire, a prime minister's career and British confidence in the army at that time.

The things you hear on trains, eh?

I don't think the teacher should be sacked, that is hysterical giddyness and wholly unreasonable, but they should be roundly condemned for bad manners and disrespect.
Unless the passenger looked like Nora Ephron it will be pretty obvious she was in her 60s. She asked for a seat and the children said no. At that point the teacher either gets off their arse and gives up their seat or if they are standing, finds the most responsible child in the group and gets them to offer their seat. Any teaching assistants or other teachers should then get up and offer the old gentleman a seat. Anything else is just rude and disrespectful and a terrible example to the kids they are looking after.

Loving your work OP. Now, you have forgotten to mention "elf n safety", for the full house

Were the teachers already standing up?

I remember my younger brother being in accident on a school trip on a bus when it breaked suddenly, he was sat in the middle back seat and went flying down the aisle. Guess what, he laughed, got back up and sat down, and nobody got sued. What has happened since then that has made everyone sue-crazy? Oh, that's right, a culture of entitlement. Thanks Labour!

And that's the fault of the teachers?

Oh yes, it goes without saying that this is a tremendous OP.

Is it just for fun, right?

It's Political Correctness Gone Mad.

I'm enjoying this fred.

I think it has great potential.

Yes. Yes it is.

Out of interest, why is this risk assessment put in place for one but not all schools? If it's so great a danger it should be in place for all, if it's low risk, for none. As someone who used the London tube 5 days a week for years plus frequently at weekends I'd say the risk is negligable.

it seemed it was a missunderstanding, it also states they were taking up most of the seats, so that would indicate there where other passengers who could have and should have given up their seats, where they in designated disabled seats? as I think that shpould make a diffence.

I really dont see what the children or teacher did wrong if Im honest and why are the other passengers not in the paper for not giving up their seats. I does not seem to me that it is children with the strong sence of entitlment. why should the other passengers who failed to give up seats have their needs prioritised over the childrens needs?

Perhaps teachers was sitting next to SN children. I know my son would need some one say by him

In the article, the LEA seems to be saying that the 'Elf is all bollocks and made up anyway.

does the CD in you username stand for CalmDown?

If not I think you should consider it.

Just sayin'