to move my child to another school because of PJ wearing parents and other things.....

[fiftieslover]

Hi there, your views would be appreciated.

My ds is currently in yr 3 (8 yrs old) he is in a mixed class of years 3 and 4. Since Christmas I have had really serious doubts about the school he is in.

He has asked to move schools a couple of times in the past 6 months and I am seriously considering it. BUT I know at 8 this is a massive change for him. He is a social little boy who makes friends easily and can articulate his thoughts really well. The issues I have with the school are as follows.

1. Parents dropping their children off still wearing their PJs. I not talking lounge wear here, I'm talking fullish sheep adorned pink things. I turn up at school dressed for work, smart and ready for the day.

1. Leading on from 1 is the reason for the PJ wearing. There is a very high number of unemployed parents in the school. I live in a nice part of not a very nice area IYKWIM. Unemployment has always been a problem. I have lived in this area for over 30 years and alot of the children in ds class are 4th and 5th generation unemployed. So I assume the pj wearing is because they have nothing to get ready for? I need to add that sometimes the children are picked up from school at 3pm with said parents still adorning the sheep attire.

I have never been unemployed so struggle to empathise really with the other parents. I work in recruitment and know there are always things you can do to improve your chances but I have never been there so know I dont fully understand the effect unemployment has on you.

1. There are ALOT of kids in the class that are morphing into absolute horrors. The behaviour is getting worse as each school year passes. Once lovely little 4 year olds are now 8 year old swearing, disrespectful kids. My ds went over to one of them the other day to show him his homework. The other kid looked at my ds as if he were stupid and said I dont do homework - I wouldnt dare!.

1. I'm aware this is getting long so going to cut it short. The teachers appear to spend alot of time on discipline - taking actual teaching time away from the good kids.

1. In the past out of 26 kids, there are approximately 8 that behave really well. If the other 18 are playing up, the whole class has been punished. This really annoyed me.

I could go on and I think I have answered my own question seeing it in black and white but would still appreciate your comments.

Thanks fifties x

I'd like a caravan

I'd like a pony in pajamas.

Don't you have an old one festering in your garden alread usual

The gypsies keep their ponies in the feild over the way. They come every morning for their carrots

No I have an old settee in my front garden though, we like to sit there of an evening smoking and drinking Special Brew.

I have a old washer and a rusty bike in my garden.

With a bucket of empty special brew cans.

LST I would love that

So some of you do want more and would move to that pretty house, would like some nice holidays, see your kids better educated than you and living a lovely life one day. Then you say snidey stuff like,

"That really gets on my nerves usual that working class people are just waiting for that opportunity to go up the ladder"

"And quite frankly it's a bit insulting to think we should all better ourselves."

"Many WC people are quite happy with their lot in life and don't aspire to the leafy MC suburban lifestyle."

"And that all people that live in social housing should better themselves"

I get the feeling you are saying that about the 'other' folk on your estates cause I'm sure those saying this do want more from life and more for their children. How do you know those 'other' folk who are happy with their lot are happy, sounds a bit condescending about all those heart of gold, salt of the earth types. Wanting or achieving more doesn't make you 'better', it makes you human and why many of them will be doing the lottery and would change their lives if they could, it's not wrong to want more. And it's not about becoming MC, because obviously it doesn't make you better but gives you and your kids more opportunities and hopefully security. I'm WC and will always consider myself WC no matter how many holidays and posh a house I live in, why do you insist that these folk (again probably not you) are happy with their lot and wouldn't upgrade in some things if they could. You're coming across very defensive in that you can slag off your family but woe betide any one else who does, close ranks and let them have it. And I don't see why saying that is insulting.

Why do you think that they don't go on holidays , don't have pretty houses, don't care about their kids education, don't live a lovely life now?

I find it pretty insulting if you don't think that some of us don't have all that just because we live on a council estate.

Why wouldn't we?

Do only people in social housing want nicer things then?

I have all I need right here. I have a son, a 2 bedroom house, kind neighbour's and a school within 5 minute walking distance.

If I won the lottery I'd probably just buy the house I'm in.

More likely I'd die of shock though

I'd like some new PJs tbh

Have I slagged off my family?

Who said all that stuff about salt of the earth then?
Own up, come on...

My house IS pretty thankyou.
If I lived in a leafy suburban semi I would still have a hankering for a Rectory overlooking the Heath.

Why are you so determined to get us to admit we want to be like you? Do you need that sort of justification?

Ok I will be honest,
I want a pink pony called Ballerina and a caravan in Southwold.

But I want a caravan in Southwold so I can visit. I dont want to move.

How lowly my aspirations, I should hang my head and weep for shame, for shame.

I never said owt about being salt of the earth but then I never slagged off my family either , although my eldest brother is a bit of a twat tbh.

No, I think many do have the cars and holidays, hold down jobs, have dreams and probably want more in life and for their kids. I lived on council estates 20 odd years or doesn't that qualify me to comment. You have been the one saying they are happy with their lot, don't want to move to the leafy suburbs, have to have aspirations - bit condescending to those happy with their lot type.

I don't think they want to be like you, no

I've lived in the big house on the avenue, it wasn't all that

I'd move and obviously that's what all the best mums have already done...

What on earth are you talking about?
Who has been saying that and about whom?

I said I am happy and am not looking to move (excluding lottery win rectory scenario). I didnt say it about anyone else.

How the hell should I know what they want. Seems to be the PJ haterz who know what others want and feel and do all day infront of their big ol tvs screens.

I said I was fed up of people assuming that all WC people want to better themselves

god, why would I think folk want to be like me, I haven't said on this thread anything about my life. You're actually one of the folk I admire most on Mn MrsDevere but what is wrong with saying it's human nature to want or hope for more, whether it's better security, a nicer or bigger house or a better education and opportunities for your kids than you had.

We have a Chinese takeaway just across the road , why would I move