to move my child to another school because of PJ wearing parents and other things.....

[fiftieslover]

Hi there, your views would be appreciated.

My ds is currently in yr 3 (8 yrs old) he is in a mixed class of years 3 and 4. Since Christmas I have had really serious doubts about the school he is in.

He has asked to move schools a couple of times in the past 6 months and I am seriously considering it. BUT I know at 8 this is a massive change for him. He is a social little boy who makes friends easily and can articulate his thoughts really well. The issues I have with the school are as follows.

1. Parents dropping their children off still wearing their PJs. I not talking lounge wear here, I'm talking fullish sheep adorned pink things. I turn up at school dressed for work, smart and ready for the day.

1. Leading on from 1 is the reason for the PJ wearing. There is a very high number of unemployed parents in the school. I live in a nice part of not a very nice area IYKWIM. Unemployment has always been a problem. I have lived in this area for over 30 years and alot of the children in ds class are 4th and 5th generation unemployed. So I assume the pj wearing is because they have nothing to get ready for? I need to add that sometimes the children are picked up from school at 3pm with said parents still adorning the sheep attire.

I have never been unemployed so struggle to empathise really with the other parents. I work in recruitment and know there are always things you can do to improve your chances but I have never been there so know I dont fully understand the effect unemployment has on you.

1. There are ALOT of kids in the class that are morphing into absolute horrors. The behaviour is getting worse as each school year passes. Once lovely little 4 year olds are now 8 year old swearing, disrespectful kids. My ds went over to one of them the other day to show him his homework. The other kid looked at my ds as if he were stupid and said I dont do homework - I wouldnt dare!.

1. I'm aware this is getting long so going to cut it short. The teachers appear to spend alot of time on discipline - taking actual teaching time away from the good kids.

1. In the past out of 26 kids, there are approximately 8 that behave really well. If the other 18 are playing up, the whole class has been punished. This really annoyed me.

I could go on and I think I have answered my own question seeing it in black and white but would still appreciate your comments.

Thanks fifties x

adventures The boden thread got deleted for being a thread about a thread and therefore breaching guidelines...it was fun whilst it lasted..

Gah! I am reading this crouched in the loo..properly dressed i might add as we are visiting the grandparents..
i am still supportive of ops decision regarding removing him from his school due to educational issues..
it is the entire jammie wearing mum thing, i cannot comprehend..i do promise my spotty paws jams will have no impact on your childs health and wellbeing..
I also wonder if op has considered having dc evaluated for psychological concerns..the disinterest or inability to make friends can be symptoms of several disorders...
now back to grans lovely lemon tart...

Really looking at that list the pjs would be the very least of my concerns, i would be concerned about the latter points.

Wearing pyjamas on the school run means nothing really. It's becoming more and more prevalent to wear pyjamas whilst doing your daily business.

There is a very old man who walks passed our house most morning to collect his morning paper in his PJs gown and slippers. He walks so slowly it takes him forever to get there.

We're not on a council estate. I wonder what sort of scummy upbringing that poor man had

Yes as I mentioned about a hundred pages back I'm struggling with the idea of 4th and 5th generation unemployed, when did the welfare state kick in? (Don't answer i do know) even if people were routinely giving birth at 14 (which is highly unlikely tbh) it is hard To imagine unemployment further back than the 60s, indeed in the late 60s when my mother became a single parent due to leaving a physically abusive DH she has told me she had to take on two jobs as despite its existence very few people were even aware of the welfare state and supplementary benefit as it was called back then.

So yeah forgive me if I struggle with this talk of widespread 4th-5th generation joblessness.

@ Boaty. But that was classic. FFS. Tell me someone saved Worral's post, at very least.

I'm fine with folk being happy on their council estate but most folk want something more from life if you can get it, problem is many don't think they can get better or even know that many folk live another way. Saying that those that are happy, do you do the lottery, if you suddenly came ito some money, say a few million - would you really stay exactly as you are? i was happy growing up on my council esatate but many of the houses were tiny two bedroomed terraced with a tiny garden. They look ugly as he'll now. Would most folk really not want something nicer and bigger?

We do actually venture out from our hovels, we have buses and cars and everything.

My mums council house is semi detached with a massive garden.

My house is a 2 bedroom with a quite large front and back garden.

Have you ever read the council house envy threads on MN ?Hownoobrooncoo

but hownoobroonco- does that not go for everyone? (council/private/homeowners).

i private rent but friends in council housings houses aren't any bigger/ smaller in size. id jump at a lottery ticket win and a move.

Something better?
Well yes I would love an old rectory overlooking Hamstead Heath.
But I would love that even if I didnt live on an estate.

(unless I did actually live in a Rectory overlooking Hamstead Heath).

People confuse their aspirations for others.
It is a big arrogant for them to assume if others dont share theirs, they are lacking in any at all.

We cant win can we? We are either being condemed for being grabby and materialistic or for being lazy and unambitious.

I suppose it has to be the right kind of grabby and materialistic. I.e. not a big telly and a all inclusive in Benidorm - it has to be an aga and a ski-ing holiday somewhere non touristy.

Personally I want a static caravan and a pony.

You don't want to know

adventures it was keeping me amused !

I missed that thread!

Wearing pjs to take your children to school is LAZY. It is not normal. Make an effort and at least get dressed before leaving the house. Yes, I would take my child out I'd this school, I would like him not to be surrounded by laziness.

You've missed nothing that will enrich your life everlong!

I won't set the council house envy lot off with my house details!

On MN , You are either a non aspirational lazy council estate dweller and should want to better yourself or you should be bloody grateful you have affordable housing.

You can't win really

I'm both grateful and non aspirational.

Short of a lottery win it can't get beTter than this.

I want a pony.
Not sure where I fit in.

I'd like a pony!