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To be furious with the way I was treated at Zara?

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VeryAngry · 10/06/2012 00:06

Right, so how many times have you seen women at Zara (or any other store for that matter) trying on things like jackets or coats over their shirts in front of one of the store mirrors? I see it all the time.
Do you always take a coat/jacket into the fitting room especially if it's the only thing you want to try on and there is a long cue? I doubt it.

So today at a Zara store, I was trying on a jacket over my T-shirt in front of one of the store mirrors. I was not the only one doing this, there were at least 6 other women in the same store trying on things outside the fitting room.
An extremely rude zara employee came up to me and told me that I couldn't try anything on unless I took it into the fitting room. Despite her tone and rude manner of speaking, I politely assured her that I was not interested in trying on any dresses/blouses/jeans etc., I only wanted a new jacket which I could easily try over my T-shirt. She said it was against the rules to try anything outside the fitting room "for security reasons". This was completely odd to me as I have tried on jackets on the store floor several times in zara and I've never been stopped. Nevertheless, I let it go and carried on browsing.

Not even 5 minutes later I saw a woman trying on a skirt in front of the same mirror and the same Zara employee said nothing to her. Another woman came and tried on a top and wasn't stopped either.

I was upset. Firstly, I was unaware of any such rule at any store and secondly, if such a rule did exist why was she stopping only me? Why not the others? i have no issues with such a rule as long as it is enoforced on everyone and not selectively.

I approached the employee and asked her why she didn't stop the lady who had tired on the skirt and jacket on the shop floor instead of the fitting room, if it was indeed against the rules. She started addressing me very rudely and began a torrent of arguments saying it was for "security reasons". Now this befuddles me! Do the "security reasons" apply only to me? Did I look like a thief to her? I told her I didn't appreciate her tone and that she had no business speaking to me so rudely. She even snapped "Do you want the clothes or not?" I asked her to explain herself calmly and politely. Instead, she said that if I didn't "stop", she was going to call security Angry Angry. I was fuming by now. I told her to go right ahead and call security. While she did that, I asked another employee that I wanted to speak to the manager.
Throughout this time, people kept trying on various items of clothing on the shop floor and nobody stopped them. I thought this was blatant discrimination.

The manager was completely unhelpful and she wouldn't even give me the employee's name so that I could lodge a complaint. She kept saying she would have to see the CCTV footage herself before she could take any action. This was extremely insulting because it made me feel like I was some kind of liar- which I most certainly am not.
I told her I wanted an apology from the woman who spoke to me so rudely and insulted me in front of other customers. She said she couldn't arrange that unless she had heard the employee's side of the story. She told me that if I was that keen on taking action I could wait until the store closed. This was at 4pm. Zara closes at 9pm at westfields on a saturday. Interestingly, not once did she confirm that the employee was right and that zara did have any such rule regarding where jackets could be tried on.

What galls me is that all this time women kept trying on clothes in the store instead of the fitting room and and nobody said a word to them. I have been shopping at Zara for years now and never before have I been made aware of this rule.

OP posts:
HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 10/06/2012 16:04

It wasn't just 'don't be starting on me', it was 'don't be fucking starting on me' Agentzigzag. When the OP didn't* start on you at all. I think her reply to you was surprisingly polite considering the way you spoke to her. Good for her.

AgentZigzag · 10/06/2012 16:08

And how was that bullying behaviour hexagonal?

Some people find it incredibly easy to try to discredit others opinions by bandying the word bully about, I find it devalues actual experiences of the victims of bullying and resent the implication I'm that type of person.

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 10/06/2012 16:13

Well you didn't come across well did you? You made your point, the OP made hers and now I've made mine but clearly you are not going to let it drop. You're obviously spoiling for a fight on here this afternoon but I'm afraid I am not going to stoop to your level and have a slanging match. Just let it go and move on

AgentZigzag · 10/06/2012 16:19

I'm not going to let it drop that you've unfairly called me a bully?

Who'd have thought it?

You don't have to slag me off any more by pretending you'd have to stoop to my level when you don't have any explanation for such ridiculous accusations.

Whether there was a 'fucking' in the sentence is neither here nor there, I don't mind swearing on here to accentuate a post, it doesn't make me a bully, or anything approaching such disgusting behaviour.

You say you think I'm spoiling for a fight on here this afternoon, does that mean it's more about what I said in the post of how little I think of designer goods, goods you set a lot of store by?

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 10/06/2012 16:23

eh? I like designer goods? Think you're confusing me with someone else.

Anyway, as I said, that is the end of the matter for me so you will have to have your tantrum as I won't be discussing anything else with you on this thread.

Toodle pip

AgentZigzag · 10/06/2012 16:32

Hehe at you not being able to stop yourself stooping.

I'm having a tantrum now?

A bullying, tantruming bjitch.

I think you're confusing my posts with someone else's.

Toodle pip?

Roseformeplease · 10/06/2012 16:48

I do just wonder, if the OP had included in her statement, "And by the way, I am black / Asian / Polish / disabled" there might not have been a more generally supportive tone to many of the posts. She was discriminated against for whatever reason. If she was your child and was expected to abide by different rules from the rest of the class you would be, justifiably, angry. The shop assistant may well have been trying to impress her boss, or wary of a particular type of customer but THIS IS DISCRiMINATION, even if the assistant just discriminates against those with expensive handbags.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/06/2012 16:56

Ffs. You wanna have a little chat about mh problems?
I would never refer to someone with mh problems as bonkers. It is a term used to describe odd behaviour. You would struggle to find a milder term and it is certainly not worse than bitch. A term I find offensive as a women. It has been used to shut women up for decades. Unlike bonkers which is a term used to lightly tease someone being a bit silly.

emsyj · 10/06/2012 17:27

I don't think saying that a reply on here is bitchy is the same as calling a woman a bitch. I haven't called anyone a bitch. I feel okay about using the term bitchy, although can see why some people may find the word bitch offensive, particularly in view of its use in some contexts (e.g. by male rappers to generically refer to any woman).

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/06/2012 17:33

We will have to disagree on that one emsyj :)
I hate it and wouldn't use it. I know it is now used to describe male behaviour too but only really if they are deemed to be behaving like women iyswim.

I can't really see the difference between bitch and bitchy anymore than wanker and wankerish.

Personally I would want to lamp someone for calling me bitchy but would laugh at being called bonkers.

nancy75 · 10/06/2012 17:41

To answer the ops much earlier question, yes it is possible to walk out of a shop with an item that is tagged without the alarm going off, there are many ways to do it, none of which I am going to list here!
You did say that you had worked in a shop, I would imagine if you relied just on tags to stop shoplifting your stock loss must have been dire.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/06/2012 17:46

I have got loads o stuff home to find the tags still on. It's blumming annoying because I have to take them back to get the bloody things removed.
H&M seems to be the biggest culprit.
I only ever bought one thing from Zara so I cant comment on how easy it is from there.

StepOutOfSpring · 10/06/2012 18:57

YANBU. I would be furious too. They were clearly judging you for some reason if they were letting other people try things on. The manager's response seems to have been deliberately unhelpful and obstructive - she was probably hoping you'd give up and go away. Agree you should complain to Head Office about the member of staff, and the manager who didn't take you seriously.

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skybluepearl · 10/06/2012 21:07

email head office. I did after very bad/rude service in a different store and I know the store got it in the neck with staff being retrained.

Latara · 10/06/2012 22:27

Is there a word that means bitchy but isn't so offensive? If so what is it? I have to deal with some very bitchy people in RL & i need a suitable describing word to substitute for 'bitchy'.
Maybe i should do an AIBU to get the answer!

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/06/2012 22:38

For me, someone who is "bitchy" makes spiteful, nasty, uncalled-for comments - "catty" is similar, but not quite spiteful/malicious/venomous enough, somehow.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/06/2012 22:50

Spiteful is a good word.
It is not gender specific. Catty is another word like bitchy that is only really applied to women. If it is used against men it is used in such a way to imply they are gay so a double whammy IYSWIM (not that I think Gay is an insult).

Must you be so spiteful? Do you mean to sound so spiteful? Do you realise you sound spiteful?

That works well doesnt it?

CointreauVersial · 10/06/2012 22:59

Good lord, what a bad-natured thread.

I was just popping by to say that I tried on jackets on the shopfloor for hours in Zara Kingston yesterday, and no-one said a thing. But that's probably irrelevant now.

Does anyone know when the Zara sale starts, by the way? Wink

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/06/2012 23:37

Spiteful is a good word, but it doesn't get the same nuance across IMO MrsDV. Spiteful is big and in your face. Bitchy is petty and behind your back, IYSWIM.

ShadowsCollideWithPeople · 11/06/2012 02:22

OP, I have not really read the thread, but don't need to. I have worked for Inditex (the parent company of Zara, Pull&Bear, Massimo Dutti, Bershka, Stradivarius). Customer service is generally awful. We were told to harass customers (approach them the minute they entered the store, offer to help every few minutes, follow them around the store etc).

I was a manager, and because I would not tow the company line of bullying staff and acting dictatorial, I was forced out of the company. They are a a horrid company, so please, complain. They generally treat their staff and customers like shit.

bejeezusWC · 11/06/2012 02:48

Are you black OP?

idococktailshedoesbeer · 11/06/2012 12:10

What a horrid shop assistant and manager, I would be fuming. You need to write to the person heading up Zara UK and CC in the head of their UK press office. Keep it short - just detail what happened and ask them if this is typical of their customer service. I would also tweet Zara the same complaint as their PR team will be very aware of the value of Twitter.

veritythebrave · 11/06/2012 12:39

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jennymgee · 04/08/2016 16:29

Has anyone any similar experiences of Zara? Having bought 4 dresses on line from Zara, I tried to return two. With a broken knee I was unable to get to a local post office so I arranged a home collection - this is part of their returns policy. No one arrived on the appointed day or time. I eventually contacted Zara Customer services who re-arranged the collection saying nothing about deadlines or my responsibilities. Again a NO SHOW, so I contacted Zara the very same day - this was only 27/7. The customer services team is now saying I'm late returning the goods and they wont accept them back. Bad service Zara......as you can see I'm not a happy customer. Any ideas anyone on how to get this resolved?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 04/08/2016 16:38

THIS IS A FOUR YEAR OLD THREAD

Perhaps start a new one?

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