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To be furious with the way I was treated at Zara?

181 replies

VeryAngry · 10/06/2012 00:06

Right, so how many times have you seen women at Zara (or any other store for that matter) trying on things like jackets or coats over their shirts in front of one of the store mirrors? I see it all the time.
Do you always take a coat/jacket into the fitting room especially if it's the only thing you want to try on and there is a long cue? I doubt it.

So today at a Zara store, I was trying on a jacket over my T-shirt in front of one of the store mirrors. I was not the only one doing this, there were at least 6 other women in the same store trying on things outside the fitting room.
An extremely rude zara employee came up to me and told me that I couldn't try anything on unless I took it into the fitting room. Despite her tone and rude manner of speaking, I politely assured her that I was not interested in trying on any dresses/blouses/jeans etc., I only wanted a new jacket which I could easily try over my T-shirt. She said it was against the rules to try anything outside the fitting room "for security reasons". This was completely odd to me as I have tried on jackets on the store floor several times in zara and I've never been stopped. Nevertheless, I let it go and carried on browsing.

Not even 5 minutes later I saw a woman trying on a skirt in front of the same mirror and the same Zara employee said nothing to her. Another woman came and tried on a top and wasn't stopped either.

I was upset. Firstly, I was unaware of any such rule at any store and secondly, if such a rule did exist why was she stopping only me? Why not the others? i have no issues with such a rule as long as it is enoforced on everyone and not selectively.

I approached the employee and asked her why she didn't stop the lady who had tired on the skirt and jacket on the shop floor instead of the fitting room, if it was indeed against the rules. She started addressing me very rudely and began a torrent of arguments saying it was for "security reasons". Now this befuddles me! Do the "security reasons" apply only to me? Did I look like a thief to her? I told her I didn't appreciate her tone and that she had no business speaking to me so rudely. She even snapped "Do you want the clothes or not?" I asked her to explain herself calmly and politely. Instead, she said that if I didn't "stop", she was going to call security Angry Angry. I was fuming by now. I told her to go right ahead and call security. While she did that, I asked another employee that I wanted to speak to the manager.
Throughout this time, people kept trying on various items of clothing on the shop floor and nobody stopped them. I thought this was blatant discrimination.

The manager was completely unhelpful and she wouldn't even give me the employee's name so that I could lodge a complaint. She kept saying she would have to see the CCTV footage herself before she could take any action. This was extremely insulting because it made me feel like I was some kind of liar- which I most certainly am not.
I told her I wanted an apology from the woman who spoke to me so rudely and insulted me in front of other customers. She said she couldn't arrange that unless she had heard the employee's side of the story. She told me that if I was that keen on taking action I could wait until the store closed. This was at 4pm. Zara closes at 9pm at westfields on a saturday. Interestingly, not once did she confirm that the employee was right and that zara did have any such rule regarding where jackets could be tried on.

What galls me is that all this time women kept trying on clothes in the store instead of the fitting room and and nobody said a word to them. I have been shopping at Zara for years now and never before have I been made aware of this rule.

OP posts:
loopylou6 · 10/06/2012 12:36

OP YANBU unless you where wearing a stripey jumper eye mask and carrying a loot bag Grin

Feminine · 10/06/2012 12:41

YANBU.

Contact Head office.

I am sorry about your experience.

StickyProblem · 10/06/2012 12:48

The fact that you felt snapped at, rudely spoken to, insulted etc. is at least partly about YOU, not the shop assistant. Do you think someone working in Zara would have UN-level negotiation and communication skills? You want to try the young Eastern European male assistants in Primark, it's like being in the Foreign Legion the way they order you about.

From your aggressive posts OP, you sound as though you were aggressive in the shop. You can state as many times as you like that you were calm and polite, but it's not believable based on how you respond to any poster saying, just perhaps, everyone on the planet isn't against you.

I'm glad that the management at Zara backed the staff member up, rather than assuming the Very Angry (your words) customer was always right. You bothered these shop workers so much they had to threaten you with security. Take a look at yourself, calm down, and treat people with respect to get respect back. Even people who have cheap handbags and work in shops.

forehead · 10/06/2012 13:16

If the op is a victim of discrimination then it is the discrimination that we should concern ourselves with. I don't know whether the sales assistant was rud or whether the op is 'deranged', the fact is that other shoppers tried on clothes in front of the mirrors and were not approached by the salea assistant.
When i was a student, i worked in a clothes shop and i can assure you that there is no 'type' of shoplifter. Shoplifters are of all races , backgrounds etc Therefore, if Zara are discriminating against particular individulas. it's no wonder people get away with shoplifting in their stores.

Angelico · 10/06/2012 13:31

I understand why you were angry and in your situation I would make a complaint. Simple.

And agree about some of the totally obnoxious replies. I wouldn't waste time rising to it OP, you'd be better off putting your energy into a letter to Zara HQ.

aldiwhore · 10/06/2012 13:35

Crikey I've tried on trousers on the shop floor before now and never been confronted. :)

KatieScarlett2833 · 10/06/2012 13:38

I believe you OP

Write to head office. Retail being what it is, they can't afford to alienate good customers.

Latara · 10/06/2012 13:41

Obnoxious replies on AIBU just like primary school?

Noooo more like being at work with some of my colleagues (who are 20 years older than me btw).
Some are lovely but some are right bitchy moody divas; the teenage student nurses are more mature.

(ALL workplaces have that potential not just hospitals - my friends who work in shops, schools & offices - with other women, just men or a mix of both - find exactly the same re: playground attitudes of certain colleagues. Annoying but sorry, off topic there slightly.)

CurrySpice · 10/06/2012 13:45

You obviously don't look shifty aldiwhore Wink

EnjoyResponsibly · 10/06/2012 13:48

I can see why you were initially barked, but comfort yourself that the poor woman will have to wor 138 ish hours to buy your purse Shock

emsyj · 10/06/2012 13:53

I haven't found the OP's replies aggressive... But again, some of the other replies certainly meet that description.

Am Shock at trying on trousers on the shop floor! Would love the sort of lithe, tanned legs that would give me courage to do the same! Grin Were you trying them on under a skirt...?

Longdistance · 10/06/2012 13:54

I hate Zara's and their snotty shop assistants!
I returned something once, that was a gift for my bro, and they looked me up, and down, as if I stole the bloody thing.
NEVER shopped in there after that.
They can shove their clothes where the sun don't shine, plenty of other shops to go to!!!

Latara · 10/06/2012 14:05

This thread is good; it's reminded me to be careful in shops as i've sometimes been about to walk out & realised i'm holding an item or got a magazine under my arm - no way do i want to get done for shoplifting which is a skanky crime.
I can be a bit forgetful, & easily distracted; i'm careful to concentrate hard at work because of that. But i need to remember to be careful out of work too.

My Mum used to work in Tesco, she would tell you that shoplifters can be all ages, & all social classes - she's seen sweet elderly ladies, gangs of local Gypsy men, & middle class mothers caught for shoplifting.
There is no set stereotype.
Also many large stores make no allowances for people with dementia for example - one of my neighbours got banned from a shop although he was obviously ill, & got cautioned.

aldiwhore · 10/06/2012 14:13

Yes emsyj actually over leggings and a floaty top... I'd love lithe tanned legs too. They were lovely and I bought them, though it wasn't Zara. Can't remember exactly where it was, but I suspect one of the larger supermarkets.

Oh and I look dodgy as hell on a Sunday morning. Grin

Pandemoniaa · 10/06/2012 14:19

If I was daft enough to spend nearly a thousand quid on a handbag I'd need to shop at Zara too. But I don't think the OP is being unreasonable for questioning why she was singled out for the alleged crime of trying on a jacket without taking it to the changing room.

It's the rather bizarre justification for her not being a shoplifter that loses reasonability points. That and getting so angry with the staff.

I'd email Head Office if I were you, OP. I'd also be inclined to take my business elsewhere.

AndFanjoWasHisNameO · 10/06/2012 14:23

fishwife - coarse, scolding woman.
And again - you have not acknowledged the part of my post that suggested that maybe you resembled someone, who, in another store had stolen something!
Your OP seemed aggressive to me, it starts 'Right' who knows? Maybe I made a judgement then and there, maybe like the shop assistant did when you first addressed her. Rather like the one I also made with comment re:the expecting even a shop assistant to recognise a designer item.
I have said YWNBU to be angry, humiliated, wronged, merely that the way you went about it certainly did you no favours.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 10/06/2012 14:57

Haha@ calling people bitchy is somehow better than saying they sounded bonkers.
The thread was fine. I sympathised with the op. then the op responded in a bit of a bonkers way to people.
I didn't say you were bonkers,I said you sounded bonkers on this thread.
I would never use the term bitch to describe another woman. It's vile.

emsyj · 10/06/2012 15:12

I do think a lot of the replies on here are bitchy. You don't have to agree, it's my opinion. I don't quite get why you seem to think that I am saying it's 'better' to call people bitchy than to say someone is bonkers?? Confused I don't understand, sorry.

Re: the term 'bitchy', different things offend different people - a lot of people find the term 'bonkers' unacceptable too. I am not really bothered by either term, I just don't agree that the OP sounds bonkers, that's all.

Groovee · 10/06/2012 15:19

Right, people here seem to think one can just walk out with a jacket that has a security device on it and I'm nuts?
You know those things that beep when you exit the store? You know those plastic devices that are attached to every item of clothing in Zara which they take off once you pay for them? How exactly can anyone shoplift from Zara unless she has some magic ability to take the security device off? The whole idea is bizarre.

Numerous times I have left a shop.... not beeped then get to the house and realise that the security tag obviously didn't go off.

ZZZenAgain · 10/06/2012 15:19

complain in writing to the head office. At least they will know who is meant with the manager of that store - and she was also very rude to you.

soverylucky · 10/06/2012 15:35

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HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 10/06/2012 15:39

AgentZigZag you sound like a bully. The OP wasn't 'starting' on you, she was replying to your (rude and unnecessary) post.

OP, I'd have just said 'ok' thrown the jacket at her and walked out. I'd vote with your feet in future. Zara stuff is rubbish anyway.

theodorakis · 10/06/2012 15:43

Zara Qatar staff are lovely, they do have small changing rooms and not enough and not only do I change in their store cupboards but they actually tell me the truth

AgentZigzag · 10/06/2012 15:47

I don't sound anything like a bully Hexagonal, the amount the OP saw fit to write in reply to the nice way I'd posted my opinion, I thought was totally over the top.

How is 'don't be starting on me' bulling?

That sounds a ridiculous thing to say.

Nothing rude or unnecessary about any of my posts.

Latara · 10/06/2012 15:47

'Bitchy' & 'Bitch' are 2 different things -

'Bitchy' describes a person (male or female IMO) being deliberately unpleasant / nasty / rude about another person, to their face or behind their back. Saying things that are true but shouldn't be said, or making up stories & stirring up trouble.
Everyone is bitchy occasionally, but decent people try to avoid being bitchy.

However, bitchy behaviour is addictive for some people; like gossiping.
I don't like using the word 'bitchy' that much but i don't know of another short word to aptly describe that type of behaviour - any ideas??

'Bitch' is more offensive - with a couple of meanings: firstly it can be used in a disrespectful way to make out someone is less human than you eg 'You're my bitch' or it's used by men to demean a women, eg 'that bitch / whore etc'.
Secondly it's used to mean someone is totally bitchy with no good qualities; & it's wrong to write off a person as having no good qualities at all ever.

I find 'bonkers' offensive because i have MH problems... one of my best friends uses this word A LOT without thinking & it's so irritating.

It's another label, like 'bitch' - as in 'oh well, she's bonkers anyway, what do you expect'.

Calling someone's behaviour 'bonkers' means you haven't bothered to understand their behaviour.