to think that people who choose to have more children whilst living in social housing shouldn't expect to be given a bigger place?

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I am a member of another pregnancy forum and there is a woman there who has just had her 5th child (by choice). Neither her nor her partner work and she is complaining that the council will not giver them a bigger house (she is in a 3 bed). All the other members are sympathising with her but I don't understand why. Surely if you choose to have a child when you know your home is not big enough, you shouldn't expect the council to give you a bigger one, especially when it is sought after subsidised housing?

I was made homeless at one point and I was told the only way I'd have a house within a couple of months was if I got pregnant. That was said to me by one of the council housing advisors. Great advice there!

i think if you owned (well the mortgage company owned) your house you work out whether you can afford something bigger, whether you can make a bedroom out of a downstairs room whether you can afford to raise more children in the style you would like...

tis going to kick off.

as you see, OP, anyone who criticises anything to do with benefits get silly reactions about popcorn etc... boring, guys! (random emoticon)

Anyway, yabu, but only because it is the GOVERNMENT that is to blame for maintaining policies that encourage this.

You cannot blame people for making the most of existing rules.

I won't stop until I'm given Buckingham Palace.
No Council mansion for me!
I'm too good for that innit.

(I really am on the list for a three bed, so I can have a carer stay overnight, Council's rules, not mine)

I wonder how many people on this thread actually live in social housing?

Noted MrsDeVere BUT she probably expects one and has probably put her name down on the list to get one.

Many people don't expect that because they rent or have bought so it will come out of their pocket at great expense to have more children and as such are limited to how big they can have their family by the size of their house.

luxury, CanISawItOff , we had to lick t'road clean wi't tongue. IF we were lucky!

maybe the subject of the OP is breeding her children like a human puppy farm, and will buy a bigger house when she's sold enough kids?

Usual you were lucky, we grew up in a hole int road...

I don't think anyone would argue that it is right or wise to plan or decide to have children that you know at the time you decide to try to conceive, you cannot afford and cannot accommodate. People shouldn't do it, because it's not fair on those children. But people don't always do the sensible thing, and how far do you go down the 'not helping you because you shouldn't have done it' road before what you are doing is condemning innocent children to a poverty stricken life? The situation is not their fault.

do you help the parents who really should not have made a choice to have children they knew they could not afford but therefore ensure a better quality of life for those children, or do you refuse to do anything for the family on the grounds that the parents shouldn't have done what they did and in doing so - make the children suffer?

It's a tough one. it really is. But I think, at the end of the day, what matters most is the children. They shouldn't suffer for the choices of their parents, should they?

usual I used to until I could afford to get back on the private market. Am I entitled (:o) to put my opinion in?

Aye we were lucky.

I grew up in a 3 bed, there was 6 kids when we moved to a 4 bed it felt like winning the lottery for us, 'twas a new build too.
When we all moved out my DM downsized to a two bed flat straight after, couldve stayed but didn't. She's always worked, but there you go...

i do, usual. Housing Association.

Been statutorily homeless too.

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!

(someone had to say it!)

:o

I live in social housing op. I pay full rent, council tax and me and DP both work full time. I was living in a one bed flat when I got pregnant and the council moved me into the house I'm living in now. I spent almost £2,000 gettig the house how I wanted it with help from family. We'd never afford to live in private rented or have a mortgage.

Am I not allowed anymore children?

i am at hole in the road

we didn't even have roads

The great thing about children is they only come in 2 sexes. So a 3 bed house will be adequate, as long as you can get a load of bunk beds in.

Only pay them benefits for the first two kids. That should sort them out.

This will be spectacular. Be afraid OP, be very afraid.

i used to usual until i foolishly gave up my entitlement to council housing, and went into private rental as too old to get a mortgage....

Can I just point out....
The council has REFUSED to rehouse the fecund moaning one.
So what is the fucking point of this thread?

Hahahahaha

I don't live in social housing, but neither did I plan either of my children. One was a 'happy accident', the other was a far less happy accident, but we love both of them dearly.

Your ability to love a child is not based on wealth alone and neither should your ability to have an abortion.

I agree children shouldn't suffer, but really is sharing a bedroom with a couple of siblings suffering?

The point of this thread was to cause a bunfight.

Lynette - YOu just don't know, though, do you?

My DS is autistic and the idea of him sharing a bedroom with another child on a permanent basis would be extremely unfair on both him and the other child.

You just don't know.