to think that people who choose to have more children whilst living in social housing shouldn't expect to be given a bigger place?

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I am a member of another pregnancy forum and there is a woman there who has just had her 5th child (by choice). Neither her nor her partner work and she is complaining that the council will not giver them a bigger house (she is in a 3 bed). All the other members are sympathising with her but I don't understand why. Surely if you choose to have a child when you know your home is not big enough, you shouldn't expect the council to give you a bigger one, especially when it is sought after subsidised housing?

Yes it was WhiteWidow, clearly I misread the tone of your post, apologies. But you have to wonder where in times of austerity measures, massive public service cutbacks and a massive global financial crises local governments are supposed to find the money to build 5 million more homes?

it is hard to understand why people think they should be given a bigger council property even though they have choosen to extend their family and can not afford to move themselves

i can not understand how it has got this way but some like to deny it or claim it is daily mail talk, i wish it was but now having meet people (on my degree course) that think this way i realise it is not and sadly they are often passing on their attitude to their children (one woman feeling her daughter should get a council flat at 21 becasue she can not afford to rent where they live)

I bloody well am entitled usual to currents in my scones and cream before jam!!!

I do not think council tennants have it easy, i also know that some council houses are perfectly nice. My mothers three bedroom (which i grew up in) huge garden (arguably room for pony) is bloody gorgeous. I daresay they have payed for it ten times over in rent as opposed to mortgage. Its just that sometimes when we are strugglingi think it would be the answer - to put ourselves on the council list, go bankrupt, hand the keys back to the mortgage company and just not worry anymore.

I think i have just cocked up though and posted everything all wrong and i apologise and wonder if i shouldnt have it deleted??

Why is everyone so obsessed with buying a house? It's a lot easier and kinder to the bank balance to rent, especially if you get a good landlord who lets you be a long term tenant.

Jam, then cream.

No butter.

If anyone says butter then they can fuck off to the far side of fuck and when they get there, fuck off some more!

But landlords are so so expensive..

Anyone you pay the same as we do for a 2 bed cottage. They are keen to have you buy because the upkeep of a house is actually quite expensive - something goes wrong, they fix it. We have just moved but last year our local HA spent MILLIONS re-roofing every single council property because they were all built at the same time and H&S regs required them to If you own the property it's you that has to replace everything when it breaks!

Thats where the problem lies in the private sector , short term tenancies

And the cost usual

I'm entitled to butter

Well, usual, you saw what I posted earlier. I don't see why I should repeat myself.

There's no security with a private landlord.

But I have 6 scones,they need more butter

What puzzles me is the mindset of some people that children need to have their own bedroom. They don't, sure it's nice but not essential. Maybe it's a modern thing? I knew one family, when growing up, that had 8 children in a three bedroomed house, they weren't the only family to have several children in a three bed either.

Having said that my children do have their own bedrooms but then I only have two children and a 3 bedroom house. Oh, it's housing association.

Wrt the woman in the OP, five children in a 3 bed will be a bit cramped but not impossible. Houses with 4/5 beds do tend to be limited in number, ime, so if there isn't one available then she can moan all she wants but short of evicting someone else there's not much her council/HA can do about it.

I do agree with LST and i dont think it should be allowed. We may lose our house, we came very close to it - we were four months in arrears on our mortgage and managed to claw our way back, but for some reason the bank is getting heavy with us and we are about o.25 of a monthly payment behind, no less than that, and we have already had a visit from a debt collector So i figure that if things go pear shaped for us (Likely, dp is a self employed builder and i cant find work) we will be out on our ear - what galls me is that we will have to line someone's pocket and pay their mortgage for them. They will profit from our misfortune (or shit choices, however you look at it).

I think there should be more affordable housing for all, last week when we paid our mortgage it took our last penny, we had nothing, but we didn't hold back on hat because we knew the "man" would be at the door again :( I could use a break from that pressure so right at this moment in time, if you offered me social housing i would be "yes please, thankyou so so much"

Short term tenancies are a nightmare if you are raising a family and you have a child who doesn't cope well with transitions.

Depending on room sizes a 3 bed house would be fine for 5 children, parents on a fold out in the lounge and 2 children in 2 bedrooms and 1 in another.

In any family where adults are the ones with the decisions and power then they should be the first to sacrifice for the sake of the choices they make, whatever type of home they have.

I do like scones though, with just butter and jam will be fine actually, and a cup of tea with three sugars, and something for my toothache, please :)

I grew up in a council flat with 2 bedrooms. I slept in my mum and dad's bedroom until I was 9. My half sisters shared a bedroom and my brother slept on the sofa and had the large lobby cupboard for his chest of drawers and sleeping bag.

My mortgage is cheaper than what we would rent our house for. So it is cheaper for us.

bwahaha, this thread will not end well , sits back and watches the action.

My grandparents in Glasgow slept in an alcove in the living room behind a curtain. That was normal, no?

thundercat it's quite civilised actually

they have shit loads of butter over there, in every room, even the servants quarters

OP, are you sure the lady concerned wasn't making it up for effect? I hear that people sometimes lie on the internet you know.

Where is the OP anyway?

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