to think that people who choose to have more children whilst living in social housing shouldn't expect to be given a bigger place?

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I am a member of another pregnancy forum and there is a woman there who has just had her 5th child (by choice). Neither her nor her partner work and she is complaining that the council will not giver them a bigger house (she is in a 3 bed). All the other members are sympathising with her but I don't understand why. Surely if you choose to have a child when you know your home is not big enough, you shouldn't expect the council to give you a bigger one, especially when it is sought after subsidised housing?

Regardless of how many kids you have isn't there a limit to housing benefit anyway? She might not be able to afford a five bedder.

just over there, next to the alley please Netto

Aye you were lucky usualsuspect i grew up in cardboard box in the middle of the road went to work down the pit and came back 26 hours later where my dad would beat me half to death and I'd be grateful for it.

Houses bigger than three beds are few and far between anyway.

Can I just point out....
The council has REFUSED to rehouse the fecund moaning one.
So what is the fucking point of this thread?

BECAUSE APPROPRIATE HOUSING DOES NOT MERELY BENEFIT THE PARENTS, IT BENEFITS THE CHILDREN, WHO ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.

That is all.

Sorry for the shouting.

Usual was it an Aldi box or Waitrose? Or.....are you fibbing and it was actually a shoe?

Yanbu - will back out slowly though - this isn't going to be pretty!

Never did us any harm,we shared one pair of shoes between us all

cardboard box?

Pah. you were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank.

Ah well if I can trade popcorn for a scone...

Generally as a society I think many people have a sense of entitlement, there was a glitch in the economy which mean people of my parents age bought house for relatively a quarter of what they cost now in the early to mid 60s and saw huge improvements in the standards of living of families with 2 parents (single parents were a bit f*cked to say the least during Thatcher era).

Unfortunately that bubble has burst, they are the freak times in history and we are back to reality, the working class have to work hard and housing is expensive and luxuries are back to being that - luxuries and not the norm.

IN OUR PARENTS DAY THEY JUST MADE DO WITH WHAT THEY HAD AND DIDN'T EXPECT FREE HAND OUTS FROM THE STATE

Speaking as someone who's mother was brought up as one of 6 in a 3 bed house.

I grew up in a four bed detached.
I had 313 siblings though

Oooooof! I'm going to keep my eye on this

She does have a point. If they haven't got room they shouldn't have more babies.

YANBU but you will find the majority on here wont disagree with people having children that they wont be supporting themselves and will agree a bigger house should be provided.

Society favours those that do this whilst those that support themselves can only have the number of children they can afford to feed and house themselves. Very unfair for doing the right thing in life.

yanbu

I got given a council mansion when I had my first child though

Seriously though I really do wish people would have consequences to their actions, these days the government seems to be content to mop up the mess so people like the one the OP mentions never truly see the end result of their actions. Someone always steps in.

Just incase it went unnoticed
THEY ARE NOT GIVING HER A BIGGER HOUSE

Oh.
I expect handouts.
I quite like my handouts.
Still haven't got the flatscreen I was promised.
I did get Le Creuset salt and pepper pots this week though

YANBU to compare that, in a private situation (so both parents working), a new house would not be forthcoming.

YABU to suggest that she shouldn't (in her particular situation which happens NOT to be private) moan about it.

Fact is, there are rules / guidelines which say what housing facilities are to be provided. Maybe that's what she had the baby, maybe it's not. But the bottom line is she is legally allowed to expect a bigger home. That's how it works.

I disagree with 'payments for all' (such as the health in pregnancy payment which I think has now been abolished), but I still collected 'mine' when I was PG with DD as I was legally entitled to do so.

Council house envy

Send them all to the workhouse.

I don't think they should be given a larger and larger house. Or even more money apart from child benefit. After all your employer doesn't give you a rise every time you have another child.