There is no excuse for unplanned pregnancy when contraception is readily available

[HoneyDragonWearingLederhosen]

Am I really that unreasonable to get a little narked by that turn of phrase and think its only used by really, really pious people? The sort of people who on hearing you are pregnant ask whether the child was planned before offering congratulations.

And the face and bemused really face, if you say "yes, I was taking it properly, yes I am aware some medications affect it".

BTW I am not horribly offended by people saying this,just as I said narked. It says on any literature you get with any contraception that it may fail. And secretly I believe failure statistics are a lot higher than those quoted on the packet

AIBU to correct the phrase to "There is no excuse for unplanned pregnancy as long as you stay at least 10 foot away from any uncontrolled sperms", next time I hear this helpful nugget of wisdom?

The last thing anyone is RL who knows me would ever call me is Judgy or closed minded - I do however have my own private opinions which because I am a professional I do not take into the work place - most people do? When I am here I am not representing anyone other than myself.

Nowhere have I said that contraception never fails. Condoms splitting is human error, they have either been pierced by nail or jewellery when removed from the packaging or have been put on incorrectly allowing air inside the latex therefore causing it to split or sn oil based lube has been used. They don't just split - you can put 6 or 7 full cans of baked beans into one and it won't break (I know this because I have done it). If you went to a indomitable factory you woul see the amount of testing that they put them through - they don't break.

The MAP stops conception but will not destroy an egg that has already been fertalized so when people say it hasn't worked its because conception has already occurred.

Contraception does fail but more often than not it is down the human error.

Not quite sure what is judgmental or closed minded about stating what I know to be medical proven facts but I am sure somone will come and correct me.

Is it not better that young people know how to protect themselves and are armed with all the facts?

I was also under the impression that its against the rules to bring up another thread on a different thread.

Not quite sure what I said which was quite so outrageous or evil but there we go.

Well actually they test a number of condoms from each batch, if less than 5 fail the batch can be sold

The map stops ovulation, if ovulation has already occurred you can become pg

5 in 1000 that is

C'mon you all know it's bad form to drag an arguement across the boards. It's bad mannered and puts posters of engaging in a thread if they think a personal bunfight is going on.

You spoke previously of doling out sympathy daily, yet came across as incredibly judgy towards the young people you work with.

I said you needed to learn some Empathy-which is not the same as sympathy.

This may be only your personal opinion but if you state your profession to qualify those opinions then IMO you should expect comment to be passed on that.

Maybe if you learnt to apply empathy instead of sympathy you'd find it easier.

Honey, yes I know that but IMO sometimes the need to challenge something over rules

I remember a couple on this morning years ago with I think seven children.

They had two then she went on the pill, taking it properly,no illness, meds clashes etc.

They had two more.

She got the injections.

After the next child, he went for a vasectomy.

Child six arrived and her tubes were tied at the CS I think.

Number seven - I don't even think they were surprised by then...

I have an unplanned condom failed son, wouldn't be without him now hes so cute, shit happens and we deal with it.

no it doesn't.

Pretty sure you are confusing me with someone else - I am fairly confident I would never talk about "doling out sympathy" that's pretty patronising to anyone and not very constructive - don't think I'm ever going to reply to the rest of your post.

Not sure what I have said on this thread which has come across as judgemental - I purposely left another thread days ago as what I was trying to say was misconstrued or I didn't express myself very well and I felt it was getting a bit nasty. I have people in RL who make my life shitty sometimes - that's not what I come here for - life is too short, I have hidden it.

Really really crappy thing to then try and bait me about in on a different thread, puts me off actually and prob others who read it.

The MAP alters normal menstual cycle , delaying ovulation; or ovulation is inhibited, meaning the egg will not be released from the ovary; It can irritate the lining of the uterus so as to inhibit implantation.

Few people on here bringing up our Talk Guidelines - if anyone needs a reminder, here they are

Ds was conceived despite me being on the pill and using a condom-which split- sometimes it just happens. Wouldn't be without him for the world

ds was unplanned i was on the pill (and i took it the same time every day) but we both now beleive that he was just meant to be

when we had the pregnancy confimed at the doctors the ex went into a rant how this had never happened to him before, or even nearly (what ever that means). the doctor then informed him that he knew someone who it had happened to twice, his wife :) that shut him up

now i double up diaphragm and condom but still it can happen

Pisses me off as there is no excuse. Poor kids who are born into it

I say it here because it frustrates me at work and spend all day giving the sympathetic shoulder there

Here I can vent

That's what you said, it was one of your better posts on that thread actually.

I'm not confusing you with anyone nor am I trying to make life 'shitty' for you.

your attitude towards this issue could easily make things shitty for others though and again here you are on a family planning related thread implying its just down to carelessness if you have an unplanned pregnancy.

Sorry if this makes you feel bad, I'm aware its not just 'words on a screen' but you seem to think it ok to 'vent' on here.

Amber have you looked at the helpfully posted guidelines?

In fact I'm going to ask for the whole thread to be deleted I can't be arsed with people's personal vendettas

Nope, but I have read it before so I know the drill.

Vendetta is taking it a bit far tbh.

Yep just had another read and can't see where I've broken any 'rule' there.

Now you're c&p'ing from another thread? Surely you know that that is incredibly bad form?

Yep bad form.

Not something I've ever done before either, was just clarifying I hadn't 'confused' sensuallettuce with someone else.

Have already admitted on this thread I myself had an unplanned pregnancy?

Not sure what your problem is with me tbh - or how you can form a rounded view of someone/their ability to do their job from remarks they have posted on a forum.

Not sure why you feel the need to make personal attacks at me - about my attitude to something which wasn't even related to this thread in fact something I prob posted when I'd had a couple of glasses of wine - as I don't remember posting that or on what thread as I post a lot atm as my OH is away - and is meant very differently from someone saying they sit there dolling out sympathy. I hid the McDonalds thread a few days ago if it was on that one as I'm not really into getting into bitching arguments with strangers on the internet.

Think a lot of people vent here - I am guessing that's allowed and isn't breaking any rules - don't think I'm intentionally hurting anyone?

And yes I stand by my point on this thread - MOST unplanned pregnancies are down to human error - I did not say carelessness.

Why you are so defensive about that is beyond me (most of the pregnancies I have come across at work are due to people not botching at all - but that's more to do with the age group).

Bothering not botching .