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To be shocked that children don't know the Lords prayer anymore

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shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 19:55

Something that came up today whilst watching the jubilee celebrations. The church service came on and the Lords prayer was said my 2 dcs don't know it and havent been taught it in school.

AIBU to be shocked by this apparently I am as we now live in a political correct society and can't teach children these things.

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Sunnywithachanceofshowers · 06/06/2012 18:54

We have Christians and Scientologists, Holo.

I'm not happy about the latter.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/06/2012 19:00

crunchy - true. But then, there are no Biblical characters who sit in the house of Lords, either. And, equally, Jesus doesn't get a theme park devoted to him (disneyland).

I see what you're getting at, but I don't see how it'd be impossible to tell children Bible stories just as stories. I doubt many small children really know about the House of Lords, right? So I'm not sure the way primary schools tell stories about Bible characters is or needs to be so very different from the way they tell stories about any other character, or about the Greek, Hindu, or Norse gods.

It's possible to learn the stories and the context without learning specific prayers and without feeling the need for indoctrination of the belie system, IMO.

HolofernesesHead · 06/06/2012 19:28

I remember first encountering the OT stories as just that,amazing, brilliant, Wednesday-afternoon-on-the-carpet stories. They merged in my mind with Greek, Roman and Norse myths (but I liked the Bible ones best!) I can still remember the first time I heard the Exodus story - I was mesmerised. No indoctrination went with them.

HolofernesesHead · 06/06/2012 19:30

And I'm feeling a bit naughty so I'm going to say, LRD, 'Jesus doesn't get a theme park devoted to him' - you've never been to Walsingham? Wink

LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/06/2012 19:34

True! Grin

Also, I suppose, the Vatican. But quite high-brow theme parkery, IMO.

QueenTiggyDTheFirst · 06/06/2012 19:36

Great news.

It's not the job of schools to teach religion, just about religion.

misslinnet · 06/06/2012 19:39

HolofernesesHead & LRD - have a look at this if you want to see how the Americans do a Jesus theme park Holy Land Experience

Warning - not anywhere near as tasteful as the Walsingham one.

HolofernesesHead · 06/06/2012 19:47

Heavens to Murgatroyd, that's horrific, misslinnet! (Although weirdly compelling [starts Googling lowcost flights to Florida])

WhiteWidow · 06/06/2012 20:07

I'm more shocked that in a survey when kids were asked where ham came from, they answered co-op. and though eggs came from sheep.

StepOutOfSpring · 06/06/2012 20:17

YANBU. I think children should know the basics of all the major religions, particularly Christianity as it has greatly influenced the heritage and history of this country. It's part of general knowledge.

LeeCoakley · 06/06/2012 20:19

Do you think that should be taught at school or home?

I'm trying to think of a lesson in infants where we discuss cuts of meat.... Grin

And that Holy Land Experience. Words. Fail. Me.

Snorbs · 06/06/2012 20:22

StepOutOfSpring, do you not think there is a difference between being taught about various religions and being told to recite specific prayer?

StepOutOfSpring · 06/06/2012 20:32

If someone doesn't believe in it Snorbs they can learn it as part of a lesson, in the same way they learn to recite a Shakespeare speech or a poem.

Snorbs · 06/06/2012 21:17

Fair enough. So you wouldn't have an issue of your children being taught to recite "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah", yes?

How about "We worship the three-eyed One who is fragrant and who nourishes well all beings; may he liberate us from death for the sake of immortality even as the cucumber is severed from its bondage."?

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