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To be shocked that children don't know the Lords prayer anymore

314 replies

shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 19:55

Something that came up today whilst watching the jubilee celebrations. The church service came on and the Lords prayer was said my 2 dcs don't know it and havent been taught it in school.

AIBU to be shocked by this apparently I am as we now live in a political correct society and can't teach children these things.

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doggiemumma · 05/06/2012 20:04

Really? As a catholic I do not see why non religious children should know this. It is not a silly passage to me, im a catholic, but white widow has a point, if you don't believe in god it is "silly" and irrelevant. Good luck with this thread though, i think you might need it.

FWIW, my DD2 is 6 and goes to a catholic school but i just asked her if she knew the prayer and she didn't Blush We don't go to church but she wants her holy communion so will start to go soon, i have told her she can't do it unless she goes to church and the relevant classes.

MarvellousYou · 05/06/2012 20:04

Know point in knowing the lord's prayer if you don't know Jesus from Adam. YABU

Jinsei · 05/06/2012 20:04

It's quite funny actually. The OP clearly doesn't take her kids to church regularly, but blames political correctness for the fact that they don't know the lord's prayer. Do you think she's afraid to take them to church in case she offends someone? Grin

MarvellousYou · 05/06/2012 20:05

Feck *no point Angry

Empusa · 05/06/2012 20:05

YABU, and illogical, and daft if you think that it's political correctness stopping your DC's from knowing the lord's prayer.

FallenCaryatid · 05/06/2012 20:05

You are being ridiculous, prayers should be taught BY THE PARENTS to a child if they wish the child to know them.
Some schools use the Lord's prayer as part of assembly, many don't.
How much more of this bloody delegation and whining is there going to be?
It is both tedious and irritating.

Ephiny · 05/06/2012 20:06

Why do you think you can't teach them it? Of course you can, if you want to! No need to wait for the school to do it (which they might well not do, if it's not a Christian faith school).

Pretty sure I learned this and other prayers from my parents and at church, not from school. I remember at assemblies we had to bow our heads for prayer/reflection, but there wasn't really any formal teaching/memorising of prayers.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/06/2012 20:06

I agree with others it is odd you do not teach it.

I do think that there is some value (as some prominent atheists agree) in knowing bits of those texts that have had a huge influence on Western culture. So, personally, I am keen to say that the Bible is a good thing to read, just as Shakespeare is: not because we agree, but because the language in the KJB is lovely and there are beautiful passages, and because by interrogating what is said, we can get a really good sense of why we might object to religion and/or canonical culture.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/06/2012 20:06

I will be very pleased if mine doesn't. You do understand it's gibberish to a lot of people.

Pozzled · 05/06/2012 20:06

YABU. I really don't understand why you would expect them to learn it at school. I might expect children to learn that it exists and is important to Christians. But I would be quite annoyed if children in a non-faith school were expected to learn it by heart.

Jinsei · 05/06/2012 20:07

OP, which people told you that school were no longer allowed to teach this? And what evidence did they present?

shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 20:07

The reason I don't go to a church regularly is my dcs compete national in sport so weekends are taken up with them traveling over the country. I do however go round to a friends house who is a reverend and worship there. After all people don't need to go to a church to be able to worship God.

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FiftyShadesofViper · 05/06/2012 20:08

I am shocked at this and shocked at the reactions on here. We are a country with a christian heritage so i think they should know it whether it becomes relevant to them personally or not. We are going to end up as a country with no traditions and values if all this continues.

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:08

Have your dc not been taught the prayer then at your friend's house?

AdventuresWithVoles · 05/06/2012 20:09

I never learnt it or even heard of The Lord's Prayer until I was 19 & went to 12-step programmes.

FallenCaryatid · 05/06/2012 20:09

So why don't your children know the Lord's prayer? That id one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith, the only prayer that is actually part of the New Testament.

Empusa · 05/06/2012 20:09

"We are a country with a christian heritage so i think they should know it whether it becomes relevant to them personally or not."

Why?

Dawndonna · 05/06/2012 20:09

What a load of rubbish. It isn't taught in schools anymore because most schools are secular. It's crap that it is to do with political correctness.

shaka12003 · 05/06/2012 20:09

Thank you fiftyshadesofviper that is exactly my feeling but I am obviously old fashioned and out of touch with things.

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SofaKing · 05/06/2012 20:10

Yabu.
I was made to say the lords prayer every morning by a teacher as a five year old, and punished for saying it wrongly or opening my eyes. It was utterly terrifying to have to close my eyes and say these words I did not understand whilst being in constant fear of punishment.

Children should learn the prayer in appropriate context if they come from a religious family. Learning it for the sake of knowing it defeats the point totally, and they must be old enough to understand what they are saying and why.

EclecticShock · 05/06/2012 20:10

Fiftyshades, you don't need the lords prayer to have tradition and value. I agree they should know what it is but really...

Alameda · 05/06/2012 20:10

but mass is said every day, more than once a day, early mornings and evenings - not just weekends? You could find 45 minutes a week if you really wanted to. I think you are just one of these 'we are not allowed to say blackboard, political correctness gone mad Shock' type of people

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/06/2012 20:11

Fifty, that is - if I may say - an odd attitude. How does the Lord's Prayer inculcate traditions and values? Confused

Forgiveness is the only secular value mentioned, as far as I can see: that could be taught separately, surely?

rainbowinthesky · 05/06/2012 20:11

Surely if you were that old fashioned you would ensure your dc were taught this by yourself especially as you worship.

EclecticShock · 05/06/2012 20:11

Agree with sofaking, I had No idea what it was about, just that I dreaded it.