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AIBU to not want my ILs to control our finances?

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SweetChilliSauce · 01/06/2012 22:00

This is my first ever post so please bear with me if you can ? apologies for the length but I?m trying to avoid drip feeding.

DP?s parents own two houses. The house they live in (DP?s childhood home) and the house that belonged to DP?s grandmother, which they inherited when she sadly passed away a number of years ago. DP?s grandmother?s house has been in their family for around 100 years so it is owned outright ? no mortgage. The house had been empty since she died.

When DP and I found out we were expecting DS, his parents were incredibly generous and offered us the opportunity to move in to the empty house and live there for 5 years, rent free. This was, they said, to give us a chance to save for a mortgage, and not be under financial pressure to have both of us working full time whilst DS was little. We knew that this was an amazing opportunity and very kind of them, and we gratefully accepted. We have been here for nearly two years now.

The house was in need of a substantial amount of work, but we were more than happy to put in the time and the money to make a home for ourselves and give ourselves a chance to pay off debt / save when the work was done. In financial terms, the project cost us around the same as what we would have paid in rent for a year, and I worked hard renovating the house both whilst I was pregnant (we were trying to complete the work before the birth so I did this full time instead of working) and for some months after the birth. DP?s parents also contributed financially to the project, as did mine. We didn?t ask either sets of parents for this help, but they offered, and we were very thankful.

I am pretty good at handling finances, and have been looking after mine and DP?s budget and outgoings for quite a while (I do this because DP doesn?t want to, and I do enjoy a good spreadsheet(!) ? the arrangement works well enough for us). We have certainly had odd periods where we have overspent but we have learnt from them, and we?ve been on an even keel (paying off credit cards / overdrafts and saving money) for a good while now. We know how much we have to save in order to put down a deposit on a mortgage, and are working on target towards this. We are responsible and everything is budgeted for.

Recently, despite the original agreement under which we moved in, DP?s parents have told us that they now require us to pay them £100 a week, which they will ?look after? for us. They have said that they ?do not believe we will save for a mortgage if it is left to us?, and thus need to control the figure of £100 a week paid to them and have it resting in an account to which they and DP (not myself) have access, though DP is not to touch it without their say so.

I feel really uncomfortable with this arrangement. I could almost understand it if they were saying they had changed their mind and now wanted us to pay rent on the house (but would be a little Hmm as that wasn?t the agreement under which we moved in and carried out all the work), but the idea of someone other than DP and I controlling our savings does not sit well with me.

I think that our savings should be in our savings account. This is mostly because it is simply our money, but also because it leaves me in a financially vulnerable position if DP and I were to break up (which I hope to God never happens, and don?t foresee happening, but I guess nothing is ever certain) as none of the money would be in my name. DP and I have just always had ?our money? ? we?ve never been divisive.

I also think we should decide for ourselves how much we are saving, rather than having the figure dictated to us. At the end of the day, we're the ones that face the consequences if we frittered away our cash. We are currently putting away about £60-70 a week and we really are living on a shoe string to do so ? if we gave £100 a week to his parents we would have nothing left in the pot after bills to buy anything that wasn?t the weekly food shop, whether that was some babygrows for DS, a new workshirt for me, a haircut for DP, taking DS to the farm... everything. When I told my ILs they said we could ?ask? them for our money back to buy whatever the item was that we required.

I just don?t want to live like this. I know we are capable of just spending what we need and putting the rest into savings (not least because that's what we've been doing) ? I don?t want to go and have to ask my inlaws for our own money every time I need to buy myself some tights. I have tried to explained this to them but they don?t seem to see the problem. I certainly don?t want to have to ask their permission and for our own money if DP and I want to go out for dinner or something else that?s just for ?enjoyment? (FWIW we?ve been out for dinner once this year so far...).

This is really stressing me out and it?s starting to cause problems between DP and I. If I?d have know at the outset that in order to live in the house we?d have to let DP?s parents control our finances and savings then I?d have said thanks but no thanks ? it is just not a situation that I would be happy with under any circumstances. It feels really controlling and belittling.

AIBU to not want to do this? I think, really, that I would much rather we moved out and made a go of it on our own ? paying rent and saving for a mortgage at the same time like everyone else, even though it would obviously take longer. AIBU?

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SweetChilliSauce · 01/06/2012 22:02

Oh gosh, sorry, I think some kind of horrendous formatting issue has happened here.

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Smellslikecatspee · 01/06/2012 22:04

YANBU

ditavonteesed · 01/06/2012 22:04

YANBU at all, nobody should dictate your money.

hermioneweasley · 01/06/2012 22:05

If you can't afford £100/week now, what will you do when the rent free period is up? If you go back to work would you be better off, even after you've paid for Childcare?

It sounds like they don't think you are saving wisely and need to be controlled like kids. Your DH with or without you needs to ask what they have seen that they consider to be profligate, and an abuse of their generosity.

Xales · 01/06/2012 22:06

Totally agree with you, I would rather move out and stay in control of my own money than give to someone else. Even if that meant I rented for the rest of my life (like many others) as I could not afford a mortgage.

Especially as like you say if you and DP separate you would be very hard pressed to get that money back as he is working and paying it while you are a SAHM and not contributing actual money on paper!

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 01/06/2012 22:06

YANBU

Surely your DP doesn't agree with their bonkers idea??

skirt · 01/06/2012 22:10

It's silly. You are adults and can manage your own money. Tell them no.

HecateTrivia · 01/06/2012 22:10

Oh, that's not going to end well. When people start trying to rule you, it never ends well. You're going to have to get their approval for any purchases, aren't you?

In your shoes, I'd move out. Even if it would set me back. Because the alternative is to give them the message that they can control you. That's the road you're headed down. I've seen it and it never ends well.

Make your own way in the world. This is not going to end well. my dad's parents were like this.

My uncle lost 2 wives because of them. One actually cited parental interference! The things they did you would not believe. Including letting themselves into the home while my uncle and aunt were away and repainting it the colour they wanted it to be Shock

They hit the roof when my dad bought a car (with his own money!) without consulting them.

When challenged, they presented my uncle with a bill for everything they'd ever done for him and given him. This included all christmas and birthday gifts!

I've got nearly 40 years worth of stories I could tell you but I will sum it up in one sentence

It doesn't get better.

Dolcegusto · 01/06/2012 22:10

Yanbu. Have you explained to your in laws that you are quite capable of saving your own money? That kind of overbearing bossiness would drive me crazy, they're treating you like children.

What does your dh say about it? Will he speak to his parents himself?

bakingaddict · 01/06/2012 22:11

Dont whatever you do agree to this control of your finances...

Tell your IL's politely you've been saving what you can for a while now and dont need to have them 'put it away' for you. I think moving out may be your only option so your're not under their direct control

AgentZigzag · 01/06/2012 22:11

Sorry if I've missed it, but what does your DP think of it? You say it's causing trouble between you, does that mean he's going along with it?

No, no, no, no, no, you are not being unreasonable in any way, shape or form.

You're right it's a weird they've said outright they think you should be saving this much and they'll keep it for you. If they'd asked for rent and set it aside to give you back without saying anything that would have been a nice thing to do, but interfering with your money like this is far too controlling, like you're bloody 7 YO or something!

Your saving and money has nothing to do with them at all, they obviously need telling.

You staying in the house doesn't give them any more authority over you than if you'd bought your own.

Thetokengirl · 01/06/2012 22:12

YANBU.
I would call their bluff. I suspect if you said no, we'll move out instead that they would soon back down.

Obviously, if they don't you would need to follow through with it.

Good luck.

Firawla · 01/06/2012 22:14

yanbu!

TheNightWatch · 01/06/2012 22:15

They are treating you like children but, this is the kind of thing my more affluent mates do, take board off their children but put it away in a tin so they can use it when they need to buy a house/car etc. I dont think its unusual. Which part of the country are you in? If its London I would say, go along with it.

Notcontent · 01/06/2012 22:15

YANBU
BUT if you are living rent free, yet can't save even £100 a week, then I think your financial situation is not stacking up and you should find a job.
Also, if you are not married, and living in your partner's parents' house, then you are in a very vulnerable situation. So that's another reason to get a job and be financially independent!!!!

sadsac · 01/06/2012 22:16

I'm wondering if now that you've done the work, they see it as a rentable property and are thinking they should be getting something back for it.

I wouldn't agree to these terms.

I'd say - if you've changed your mind and want to rent it out, then yes we'll pay rent. Or i'd find somewhere else to live.

But as a grown up I don't need anybody controlling my finances thank you. It does put you in a vulnerable position. But also your dh. What's to say they don't go doolally and decide to keep the cash once they see a large lump sum building up. Weird controlling behaviour to me.

TidyDancer · 01/06/2012 22:16

Bloody hell. YANBU. They can't possibly think you will agree to be controlled like this?!

DuelingFanjo · 01/06/2012 22:16

has your dh agreed to this?
Yanbu.

although I wonder, did they have an opinion on you renovating the house you are in?

TheSecondComing · 01/06/2012 22:16

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GrahamTribe · 01/06/2012 22:16

Goodness, YANBU. I'd be more than upset if I were you, I'd be fuming. Grateful that they helped to begin with, sure, and you patently are, but now they're taking the mick. What does your DP have to say about it?

Normally I'm the first to say that women should be adult enough to confront their PILs if needed and not tell their DPs to do it but here I think that you need him to "man up" and tell his parents straight that this is not happening.

And remember, it can only happen if you agree to it. If you both say no way there's nothing the PILs can do to force you to hand over your money.

ohanotherone · 01/06/2012 22:16

Weird - say you'll paid them rent if that's what they want! Otherwise you'll move out!

AgentZigzag · 01/06/2012 22:18

If they're making a judgement on what savings you've got, does that mean your DP is telling them everything, or are they just guessing?

pictish · 01/06/2012 22:20

Yanbu. Not at all!

They have overstepped the mark.

SweetChilliSauce · 01/06/2012 22:20

Thanks so much everyone - I've honestly been wondering if I'm mad for feeling so upset about this.

hermione - the £100 is very tight at the minute (but hopefully not forever) as until recently I have been a SAHM. We live rurally and I cannot get a job in my field here, so I am currently working a couple of days a week unpaid to get some experience in a different field, in which I hope to find part time paid work by the end of this year. The only paid work that I could hope to get at the moment involves shiftwork (working in a supermarket is the only thing I've found that doesn't require experience I don't have - and this requires working evenings and weekends) and as my partner works shifts full time, I cannot do that too because we couldn't get childcare to cover it.

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maybenow · 01/06/2012 22:21

I read this that the OP is choosing to stay at home and be a SAHP to her young son BECAUSE they can live rent free. If they had to pay rent she would go back to work.

OP - taking the rent-free house was already one step in the direction of losing financial independence. i would utterly not take another step and tell the ILs that if they managing your savings is tied to being able to live in the house then you will find a job and alternative accommodation.