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Would you be offended by a father accompanying his small daughters into the ladies toilet?

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NickECave · 07/05/2012 11:20

I have two dds aged 4 and 2. My dh often takes them out and about in town on his own and inevitably needs to take them into public toilets. The thing is that male public toilets are often extremely dirty and unsanitary and I'd much rather he took them into the ladies. My question is would you be offended by a man coming into the ladies toilet when he is obviously accompanying a small girl? I don't personally know anyone who would have a problem with this but would be interesting to see if lots of people disagree with me.

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bejeezus · 08/05/2012 12:18

shew because children are not sexualised

and havent had experiences that a woman might have had, to make them not want a man in the toilets

The women arent just being prudes/difficult/offended for the hell of it

Sirzy · 08/05/2012 12:19

Saintly - I think there are exceptions to every rule and that is one of them, it also shows why those without disabilities really shouldn't use disabled toilets to avoid you being in that awkward situation.

pickles35 · 08/05/2012 12:20

I walked into a mens the other day by mistake and I saw a winky. Poor chap was so shocked he spun around with his winky out. Im ok though.

bejeezus · 08/05/2012 12:21

its all totally fucking irrelevant anyway- as we have yet to find a man who would take his small dd into the womens toilets Hmm

seeker · 08/05/2012 12:21

My dp managed to go out and abouta lot with our dd and never felt the need to take her to the ladies. Ido wonder why anyone would, actually.

Jins · 08/05/2012 12:22

I agree with bejeezus.

shewhowines · 08/05/2012 12:23

No I agree - as I said I wouldn't have a problem with my DD in the mens but I understand that some do.

It's just I'm having difficulty with people not understanding other peoples feelings and making exceptions in some (genuine) circumstances.

seeker · 08/05/2012 12:25

I'd lilt to repeat a point I made earlier which nobody has addressed, except for a couple of people agreeing.

Why should women have to justify why they don't want men in the women's loo? It's a women's loo. The clue is in the nme. Why should women have to supress their feelings or adapt their behaviour to suit the convenience of men? Particularly a man playing the "I'm looking after my own children, which I know makes me a bit of a hero in your eyes" card?

shewhowines · 08/05/2012 12:27

But why are his feelings less important than yours?

pickles35 · 08/05/2012 12:28

Its understanable in my opinion seeker. If the mens is full of people shooting up crack/shitting on the floor and its an emergency then the man could always just call through the door and see if anyone in there would mind. As it seems about 50/50 both ways. I wouldnt mind if it was an emergency. But most mens loos in shopping centers etc are just as pleasent as the ladies.

shewhowines · 08/05/2012 12:28

Seeker - I'm sorry I do understand your point. Thats the trouble, I see everybodys point.

Jins · 08/05/2012 12:28

Well I understand other people's circumstances and would happily make exceptions for people like Saintly for example. That wouldn't bother me at all.

I think the user group that would struggle the most with a man in the ladies is the elderly and I think anyone considering using the wrong sex loo should think about who may be in there and who they may be upsetting. I can't imagine my Nan making an exception because some bloke had been instructed to use the ladies with his daughters in case they saw a bit of flesh or stepped in wee. She'd be straight to the store manager in disgust :)

pickles35 · 08/05/2012 12:29

My nan would have had a pink fit and be bedbound for months.

fabulousdarling · 08/05/2012 12:31

Honestly, I cannot see the problem. I wouldn't want my girls going into men's loo.

halcyondays · 08/05/2012 12:31

But why can't he use take his girls into the men as the majority if dads do if needed? Anyway, it seems it's the op who thinks he should use the ladies, not her dh. By the sound if it, he wants to use the gents.

Jins · 08/05/2012 12:32

So should our Nans be told to get a grip then?

MrGin · 08/05/2012 12:32

Has anyone ever seen a man in the Ladies ?

bejeezus · 08/05/2012 12:32

and that goes both ways shew

Jins · 08/05/2012 12:32

Yes. He was mortified and ran like the wind Grin

bejeezus · 08/05/2012 12:33

and young teenage girls gin

LadyBeagleEyes · 08/05/2012 12:34

Actually MrGin I never have.
But as I said above, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

bejeezus · 08/05/2012 12:35

haha! Had a man ever encountered my grandma in the ladies toilets- he would never do it again, you can be sure of that! And word would spread fast! Grin

shewhowines · 08/05/2012 12:37

What would Nans say to male cleaners though?

Yes I think Nans need to look at individual circumstances too.

pickles35 · 08/05/2012 12:37

My Nan would say you missed a bit you lazy bugger.

shewhowines · 08/05/2012 12:38

Pickles Grin

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