Would you be offended by a father accompanying his small daughters into the ladies toilet?

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I have two dds aged 4 and 2. My dh often takes them out and about in town on his own and inevitably needs to take them into public toilets. The thing is that male public toilets are often extremely dirty and unsanitary and I'd much rather he took them into the ladies. My question is would you be offended by a man coming into the ladies toilet when he is obviously accompanying a small girl? I don't personally know anyone who would have a problem with this but would be interesting to see if lots of people disagree with me.

Beejeezus, I agree. Why the fuck should we have to be "absolutely fine" about men coming into the women's loo? I hate this idea that women have to accommodate men. Particularly a man playing the "look at me, I'm looking after my children" card. If the men's loo is disgusting, then men should bloody well learn not to pee on the floor. Not say "oh, ours is all horrid, so we're having yours"

Women shouldn't need a reason for wanting the womens toilets to be for women.

If a man is out with his son but thinks the mens are to dirty for his son should he be able to take his son into the ladies to?

TBF - I've been known to go into the mens (Eeew) when there's a ridiculous queue for the ladies because whoever plans these things fails to understand that on average, women spend 3 times longer in the toilet and therefore need a lot more toilets than they get.

So generations of women have never left the house due to the 'impossibility' of accessing toilet facilities with children?
Having had young DCs myself, I never used a disabled toilet, am I some kind of superhuman?

I hate these threads cos whatever you say it gets misconstrued and you end up looking heartless.
I have a couple of mates with a disability and i cant imagine that they would be too bothered about someone using the loo as long as it was for a reasonable amount of time and left clean.
If it is a designated baby change and disabled loo then its fine for both parties to use it surely.

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Exactly seeker and sirzy
We shouldn't need a reason

Where I live, there are pl
enty of family facilities around town anyway. Is this not the normal?

fourlotsoftrouble you can put the baby in a sling and go the toilet like that, have done it many many times OR you can leave your baby safely strapped in its pushchair/pram right outside the cubicle whilst you nip in to have a wee, again have done that many many many times. its perfectly ok.

the only time i use a disabled toilet is when the baby change facilities are in there and even then i HURRY as i am aware i may be making someone with more need than me wait.

It wouldn't bother me.

It has reminded me of a school trip to France when I was about 11/12 though. The coach stopped for us to go to an underground public toilet which was a long building with doors at either end marked male and female. The teachers gathered up the group into boys and girls, we all trooped off in opposite directions and down the long flights of stairs.

And came face to face with each other because the actual toilets for men and women were all in the same room. There was a line painted on the floor and a bored looking man sitting on a chair which was carefully positioned over the centre of the line.

We all had to go and collect three squares of paper from him and then find a cubicle on our side of the line. I think it was a good idea really, although that is hindsight. At the time I think we were all a bit horrified that our French teacher might be listening to us go.

unisex proper size properly lockable cabins with mirror and a washing facilities is the answer...

5madthings don't tell me what's "perfectly ok" to do with my baby, whilst you feel it's ok to leave a baby outside a cubicle not knowing who is going to come along I feel it is a highly irresponsible thing to do, i have had 3 children & have also used sling on occasions but my baby is now 10mths not walking or standing alone & too big to sling while I use toilet & so I will use disabled toilet & don't feel wrong doing so, as soon as my ds can stand I will not use disabled toilet.

You lot obviously don't shop at The Metrocentre. Ladies loos, Mens loos, Disabled loos and Family rooms (large cubicles with toilet, sink and changing facilities) along with another designated changing room.

Bloody marvelous. In fact, I think DH has used these facilities with DD more than I have with her (my bladder is strong like bull)

highly irresponsible, ha ha dont make me laugh it is fine to do, if you want you can even not shut the door tight, just put one foot against it and hold it closed whilst you wee, but the reality is a baby is fine strapped in a pushchair right outside a cubicle whilst you wee for a minute. or are you worried about all the random baby snatchers there are lurking around every corner?!

if the disabled toilets you are using have a baby change facility then yes its fine to use them as they are multi purpose but if not then no i dont think its ok for you to be using them.

and if we are talking about how many children we have i have 5 and have left all of them at various ages just outside the toilet cubicle, or used a sling, even up to ten months, some slings can be used on your back, i can still wee with my 17mths in a mai tei if i need to and she is a big baby!

You're obviously a "highly irresponsible" parent to those 5 children, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I don't care how many babies you can strap on your back and still have a crap with one foot against the door.

If one woman in a thousand feels uncomfortable about a man in the LADIES toilet, all because he can't be bothered to give the seat a quick wipe, then its wrong and he shouldn't be in there.

He should NOT be in there. I would tell him so too if I saw him in the ladies bogs.

I've never used the disabled (or mens) toilets with my DD. She goes in the regular toilet with me. When I have this baby the same will apply. We will all go in together or I will take the baby in and she can wait outside. I asked DH what he does when he takes her out - he takes her in the mens and into a cubicle and has never had any problems. He says men using urinals are stood close to the wall and noone can see any willies... neither of them seem traumatised by having to share a toilet with one another and/or other children and/or men.

i never said anything about women not feeling uncomfortable, if they do then fair enough they do, thats not my issue, i said i wouldnt feel uncomfortable and i dont.

we were discussing parents using disabled toilets, which i wouldnt do unless it had a baby change and i dont think having a pushchair means you can use the disabled toilets unless you or the child have a medical need as leaving your baby strapped in a pushchair outside a cubicle is a perfectly reasonable thing to do ime.

i am sauvignon i am

Imagine opening the door and finding the baby gone, it doesn't bear thinking about.

again risk assesment gone mad on mnet, what a suprise!

How many cases of a baby being snatched from outside a toilet cubicle have there been ever?

I know loads of people who do it and have seen plenty babies outside cubicles, never heard of one being snatched though.

I wasn't getting into a competition of how many children we had I was pointing out I wasn't new to all this & made my decisions for reasons & not because I didn't know you could sling a baby, etc. 5madthings you obviously haven't read earlier posts as I said I have on occasion gone to loo & left door ajar, I just feel there is no need to do this when there is a disabled loo usually empty & with no queue. My 10mth old is too big for the slings I have & would be in a pram on a day out, at 17 mths old my other 2 children would have been far too big & heavy for my poor back.

I just leave ds2 in the buggy facing me and I piss with the door open.

No doubt he would get upset if I shut the door and has a tendency to throw himself side to side to topple the pram

Yeah right