Would you be offended by a father accompanying his small daughters into the ladies toilet?

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I have two dds aged 4 and 2. My dh often takes them out and about in town on his own and inevitably needs to take them into public toilets. The thing is that male public toilets are often extremely dirty and unsanitary and I'd much rather he took them into the ladies. My question is would you be offended by a man coming into the ladies toilet when he is obviously accompanying a small girl? I don't personally know anyone who would have a problem with this but would be interesting to see if lots of people disagree with me.

No problem here with a man coming in.

Really stupid to think it's better that the adult enters the right toilet not the child.Never mind a traumatised DD seeing strange mens willies it must be a damn sight worse for the men using the urinals.
Women pee behind doors and men don't. Don't understand the people on here who are embarrassed to have a man in the room. How would you feel about your DH or DP having their willy out with young girls walking in and out.

I think I need some of those beepy parking sensor things fitted to the sides of my frame. I'm not very good at judging whether I'll fit through or not. Getting stuck is becoming a regular occurance and it's beginning to trigger sweary outbursts.

i always feel a little better after a small sweary outburst - provided no-one has overheard - takes the edge of it when you have to apologise.

There should be a sign. Like the ones that say a male attendant is cleaning the loos.

A man could then indicate that he had entered, and women who are prone to an attack of the vapours could wait/go elsewhere.

There should be a sign. Like the ones that say a male attendant is cleaning the loos.

A man could then indicate that he had entered, and women who are prone to an attack of the vapours could wait/go elsewhere.

I wouldn't mind. But a lot of people would. Including, for example, my teenge daughter.

I really sympathise the unmember but most toilet cubicles are far too small to accommodate a pushchair. What else can pram-encumbered people do but use the disabled loo? Leave their baby out of sight on the other side of the door? They don't really have a choice either. I don't think you cam blame them for bad planning on the part of those who designed the facilities. Also as you know many disabled loos contain baby changing facilities in any event so
it isn't entirely unreasonable for them to be used by pram-pushers.

Woops, sorry Unmember didn't mean to do that to your name. My apologies!

How are mens toilets "hideous"? Adult men should use the mens toilets even with daughters, and adult women should use the womens toilets, even with sons.

How melodramatic, "a traumatised DD seeing strange mens willies" [sic]!
DH always took DD to the men's, shall I ask her if she needs counselling?

imo it is bad planning to put baby changing stuff in the disabled toilets.
but if they are in there, then of course parents will use it and rightly so.
but not all disabled toilets are also changing rooms, those should not be used by mummies with prams.
it isn't really hard to work out.
personally I think all disable toilets should be locked and all disabled peopel should be issued with a card that opens them.
anyone caught using them without one should be fined.

My confusion with the post is the premise that mens toilets are disgusting when out in the shops - I have never been in a shop or public toilet that is unhygenic or disgusting. I have been in pub toilets (of both sexes) that are, but shop ones tend to be very clean, it's very much the exception to find anything bad - it's not mens toilets that have hovering women pissing on the seat for example.

So I simply can't see why a man would bother going into the ladies at all - the gents is fine. I've never heard or seen any comment in a gents from any man about the hundreds of babies and toddlers who go in. You can't see willies when they're being used at a urinal, the men have their backs to the room, so even if the hypothetical toddler could catch a glimpse as the man was a littly tardy putting it away as he turned to wash his hands (which is also normally done) neither the man or the toddler would give a toss.

And I don't see much of a reason to use the disabled toilets, leave them for those who actually need them, and toddlers with adults don't!

"Women pee behind doors and men don't."
There are cubicles in mens toilets as well. Do you think men poo in view of the other men using the toilets?

Well said Fred!

No, not at all.

Also as you know many disabled loos contain baby changing facilities in any event so it isn't entirely unreasonable for them to be used by pram-pushers.

Not the ones near me. There is a separate parent and child room next to the disabled toilet.

They don't really have a choice either.

Yes they do. They could, for example, leave the baby with grandma/dad/friend, use the creche, use a sling, use a smaller pram, not have a baby, just to think of a few.

personally I think all disable toilets should be locked and all disabled peopel should be issued with a card that opens them.
anyone caught using them without one should be fined.

Hear! Hear!

Many mothers keep the cubicle door open so they can still see their child in the pushchair.
That will be embarrassing when the Ladies is full of entitled fathers who want to prevent their DDs from being 'traumatised'.

JosephineCD yes they do on occasion apparently - poo with the doors open I mean. I didn't believe my DH when he told me this but apparently it is true. Also, the men's bog at out local tesco is apparently truly worthy of it's name. My not particularly fastidious DH carried my then 3 yr old through it so that her shoes didn't touch the ground. I take her to the ladies now when we go there

imo it is bad planning to put baby changing stuff in the disabled toilets.
but if they are in there, then of course parents will use it and rightly so.

2shoes glad you said this as i always feel bad using the baby change facilities in the disabled toilets incase i am holding up someone who really needs to use it!

and with regards to toilets not being big enough for prams, pushchairs etc and??! i just park the pushchair right outside the toilet, take my bag/purse in with me and talk to the baby/toddler in the pushchair whilst i go to the loo! or are we all terrified of the hordes of baby snatchers there are just waiting to steal your baby whilst you have a wee?!

good question timetopost! is it ok for Dad's to take their sons into the ladies too or are the mens clean enough for ds but not for dd?!

Otoh though I don't particularly want to see pissing mothers and people changing clothes when I go to the loo, so maybe Women should do such things with the door shut/in the cubicle (not that in my 31 years I have ever come across such things) .

Whether you CHOOSE to do those things GinPalace is entirely up to you. After all, it's about choice. But to say that mummys with prams don't have a choice is wrong because they do. It may not be the choice you want, but it's still a choice.

most parents manage without ever having to use a disabled toilet.
I did, and I never took ds into the mens toilet either,
he cam in the ladies and as soon as he wanted to he went into the mens..
I then had to liter outside and sometimes ask a man to check on him for me.
wa never a problem, tbh I think people see problems that don't exust.