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AIBU?

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To be really annoyed with my soon to be landlord.

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wonderstuff · 03/05/2012 22:55

He has refused to move out his washing machine - I have a really nice washing machine - I want my washing machine in my house. I've agreed to pay his mortgage +++ for a year I don't want to have to store his bloody washing machine. Grr. Hate renting.

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sleepchildsleep · 12/05/2012 17:24

Ahh ok, there is no where to store it - thats a shame. Is there anyone who can store it for you? OR see if LL will agree to you getting rid but leaving yours when you move out hopefully long term

I know what people are saying about the mortage and it must be really fustrating to have to rent a property as you can;t sell, was very nearly there myself!

Just find a way to reslove and move on or it could make renting this place a bit of a shit experience.

needsomesunshine · 12/05/2012 17:26

Lostvagueness. I don't think it's really about the washing machine tbh. Buying your own property isn't the norm every where else in the world but since the 70's Britain has had a huge emphasis on home ownership which makes people feel inadequate if the cant afford to do it.
I'm sorry your in this situation op but that's not the landlords fault.
I rent out our house because my dh got a job somewhere else & we couldn't sell. That also means we rent our current house from a landlord. We get charged 50% to readvertise our property & make just enough to cover the bills. When we do have an emergency or dodgy tenants we have to cover the shortfall. It's not as easy as you think.

sleepchildsleep · 12/05/2012 17:28

cravey Its just not true that people can buy if they really want to. My DH had a property which we had to leave due to forced relocation, we were lucky that DH's work paid a generous re-location allowance which meant we could afford to rent and pay our mortgage for 7 months before it sold. We have only been able to buy again due to re-location allowance and PIL lending us the deposit as we lost loads on sale of house. DH earns well above national average!!

Cravey · 12/05/2012 17:33

Sleepchildsleep I agree it is not easy to buy but as stated landlords are NOT social housing providers. The tenant in the op should maybe be grateful that she has somewhere to live rather than bitching about a washing machine

sleepchildsleep · 12/05/2012 17:37

Totally agree that LL are not social housing but a business or a neccesity (as I said was nearly there myself). However I do not think OP should be grateful, it is business. I do think she just needs to resolve the issue, prehaps LL could be more accomadating or not.

FWIW, having just left rented housing, I have plenty of bitching to do! But as has been said there are crap LL and crap tenents. I am grateful to be in our own house which the bank own, HA!

Cravey · 12/05/2012 17:42

In my experience most landlords are in it to make money myself included but am still of the belief that the op does not have to take the property she could find something else. I don't understand the HA at the end of your last post was it aimed at me or the bank. If it was the bank then I am sort of with you on that one lol.

sleepchildsleep · 12/05/2012 17:44

The bank Cravey!! Not you. I think it depends where you live, we are in the SW and in this area there is a mjor shortage of rentals. I don't think it would be sensible to decline a property based on a washing machine, bit daft!

Doobydoo · 12/05/2012 17:48

I understand your frustration OP.Agree you are probably paying the mortgage too.
I don't think you have a chip on your shoulder.
We have had a mortgage and now rent and have done for some years.We are in the fortunate position of renting from an estate...they own over 300 houses and are brilliant.and we don't have the fear of them selling the property.or if they did they would offer us something else.If I was privately renting I would be jittery as it is all so insecure.We can put pictures up,keep goats[if we wanted to] put up shelves,paint etc.We don't have to tiptoe round someone's shoebox afraid to live in it and be expected to be grateful..

Cravey · 12/05/2012 17:50

But even if the op is paying the mortgage that is no concern of hers. The key word is renting ie she is renting so what her ll does with his rent is his business

Doobydoo · 12/05/2012 17:51

That is good to hear Lizcat

LostVagueness · 12/05/2012 18:22

Cravey 'I also cannot empathise with anyone wanting to buy a home for family. If someone wants it that badly then I am sure they could do it'

And if they can't, it's their fault for not being richer?

'The tenant in the op should maybe be grateful that she has somewhere to live rather than bitching about a washing machine'

Grateful? Really? You actually believe that? I'm embarrassed for you!

Cravey · 12/05/2012 19:01

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MousyMouse · 12/05/2012 19:10

or do what other renters (like me) do: rent a storage room for everything that doesn't fit into the flat.

SweetTheSting · 12/05/2012 19:51

Cravey

If you see it as a business transaction, why should the renter be grateful? I'm not grateful when contracts at work get signed.

Cravey · 12/05/2012 19:55

Read the post correctly she should be grateful she has somewhere to live and not whine about paying ll mortgage as stated what he does with rent accrued to him is his business. I never once said she should be grateful to the ll maybe just store the washing machine.

SweetTheSting · 12/05/2012 20:03

So who is it she should be grateful to?

Cravey · 12/05/2012 20:12

No one in particular just be grateful that she has a home .

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wonderstuff · 12/05/2012 20:26

Really? All of us with a roof over our head should be grateful? And not want for any better?
I am grateful that I live where I do - it is a beautiful part of the world, I'm grateful that I live near family, I'm grateful that I have been born British - living in the first world is a priviledge and I am thrilled to be bringing up my children here, in relative comfort and safety. I know I am lucky.

But I am pissed off with the state of the rental market, really pissed off with the letting agents and with the fact that they can do what they like wrt fees. I have resolved the washing machine thing - so that is good, but have since found out that the current tennant has had a couple of gas leaks from a v. old cooker and that has worried me. And it would be nice to be able to afford to buy a family home. But I am being a little picky here in that I want one near to good schools in a low crime area - which is why I'm renting - when I sold my last house the only houses I could afford were in awful areas and I wasn't prepared to live in one. I work hard, I have a good job, as does DH - we just don't earn quite enough/live in the wrong part of the country/brought a few years too late/ are a few years too young.

I have been happy in my current rental. So not a massive chip - just want things to be nice. Not sure how that makes me a bad tennant, whatever.

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Cravey · 12/05/2012 20:36

He has done your gas check I take it if not get him to do it now and be there when the corgi person comes ask them to check out the issue with the cooker they won't charge him any extra and it may put your mind at rest. I didn't actually mean be grateful he has rented you a home I meant we should all be grateful for our homes I do think you were a bit out of order re the machine and the statement about his mortgage was out of order.

bbcessex · 12/05/2012 22:23

Sorry - haven't read the whole thread so this may have been said already..

I rent out a flat - the w/m there is almost new, so wouldn't apply, but if I had an older machine and the tenant wanted to "swap" with their improved model, I would agree. eg you get rid of the old machine and put your new one in, on the basis that you leave it when you you vacate...

I wouldn't want to take the existing machine and put it in storage though - it's a hassle to disconnect and store, but I wouldn't mind if the tenants did.

bbcessex · 12/05/2012 22:27

From a landlord's perspective, If it makes you feel any better, it also costs us to let the flat..

the Letting Agents also take one month's rent from us for letting the flat each time (has let to first viewers each occassion), plus an admin fee for holding the deposit, plus a Portable Appliance Test fee, plus an EPC certificate, plus a tenancy agreement fee etc.

So it usually cost us approx £1000 each time tenants change, which has been shorted 6 months, longest 24 months.

I'd still rather be the landlord than the tenant of course, but it's not all profit..

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