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To be really annoyed with my soon to be landlord.

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wonderstuff · 03/05/2012 22:55

He has refused to move out his washing machine - I have a really nice washing machine - I want my washing machine in my house. I've agreed to pay his mortgage +++ for a year I don't want to have to store his bloody washing machine. Grr. Hate renting.

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Squirrelz · 04/05/2012 10:24

Can't you just sell your washing machine? I moved in with my DP recently and we had a lot of duplicate stuff, some went into storage but we sold her 10 year old washer for £50. If yours is new and spangly, surely it would go for much more?

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wonderstuff · 04/05/2012 10:27

I could squieerlz - but I dont want to!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/05/2012 10:28

I don't get it - if you've not seen the tenancy agreement, why not just find somewhere else? Or did you have a holding deposit to lose?

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wonderstuff · 04/05/2012 10:30

We would lose holding deposit and there isnt anywhere else to be had as far as I know - we are in a village, we want to stay, dd is at local school, its nice here.

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DialsMavis · 04/05/2012 10:31

Definitely just buy somewhere OP, we rent and I had never thought of it. After the excellent advice on here I had a look on right move. There are some 3 beds in
My area for just under £500k, will check down the back of the settee to see if I
can scrape together the £100k I would need for deposit and fees

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/05/2012 10:33

I think you're stuck then.

It's not the LL being unreasonable, though. On the bright (?) side, if it is on the inventory he has to maintain it (whereas if yours broke, he wouldn't have to do anything).

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wonderstuff · 04/05/2012 10:33

[slaps forehead] thanks DialsMavis what a brilliant idea

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DialsMavis · 04/05/2012 10:39

We sold our white goods to the new tenant who
Moved into our old place

TeWiDoesTheHulaInHawaii · 04/05/2012 10:39

Your current LL might buy them off you as well.

MrsHeffley · 04/05/2012 10:41

We've had this.

In one property we got some fitting and put it on top of the LL's one I think.In another we put it into storage with a load of other stuff,it was fine and actually that was a a good option as we got a few more years out of it after iykwim. Has the property got any outdoor space eg garage as it would be fine in there?Think we did that too once.We've rented a lot over the years.

Grrrr · 04/05/2012 10:50

If yours is vastly newer and better than the landlord's I'd write and explain that you'd be happy to install yours on the understanding that you could not take it with you when you left and that you proposed to try and sell his to compensate you for the upgrade you were giving him. He probably will want every penny of the sale proceeds however, you know what moneygrabbing @">?^!'s landlords are. .

I don't want to be rude but I attended my secondary school reunion last year and the outpouring of vitriol from one ex pupil when she realised that I had become an (accidental) landlord and owned two houses was very unpleasant. She was bright but had coasted her way through school, was a bit of a bully to some pupils to be honest and certainly spent more time on her social life/appearance/trendy clothes and belittling some of us who were studious bookworms than she did on getting an education and she wasn't thick, just not interested in exerting herself accademically. It certainly wasn't my fault that she had "rental problems/bastard landlords" in her life and hadn't got onto the property ladder etc etc but she sure needed to blame someone !

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wonderstuff · 04/05/2012 11:00

Grr I'm not the ex pupil who told you all landlords are scum - I am not bitter at my landlord that I'm renting (don't know why people are thinking this).

Several landlords have said my request wasn't unreasonable..

Hadn't thought about selling stuff on to new tenents here - definitely worh investigating.

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ifeelloved · 04/05/2012 11:09

Wonderstuff, I get that you were maybe just having a rant in your original post but re read it and you might nderstand why some people got pissy with you. Maybe he doesn't have anywhere for his washing machine and the house is rented as with white goods, not his fault you have your own.

I have been a renter, and also rented out a room in my flat. It is a business arrangement, you are not paying his mortgage, you are renting his house. He is not a charity, he does it to make money so that he can have the life style he wants.

I agree, house prices (especially in the se) are utterly ridiculous, however this is not your landlords fault.

Bobbish · 04/05/2012 11:27

I agree with Grrr. Sell his washing machine and put yours in. Depending how long you are there before you move on either leave your machine behind, or take it and buy a cheap second hand one to replace it.

Washing machines don't last that long these days anyway . . .

ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 04/05/2012 12:17

Bobbish - what planet are you on where it's OK to sell someone elses property because it's inconveniencing you?

bronze · 04/05/2012 12:43

Ive never had an inventory until we have fully signed up. In fact several times they've done it just before we've moved in then we've had it for two weeks after moving in to check that everything matches up and that we haven't noticed anything new

Bobbish · 04/05/2012 12:48

sorry Chipping - i did mean with his permission . . . (though admittedly left that qualifier out of my previous post!)

ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 04/05/2012 13:00

Bobbish - well, that's slightly different isn't it ... and I am channeling the Washing Machine Fairies - my new one is going to last for many, many years... I am treating it to lovely calgon tablets every wash, so if it doesn't it's going to be in trouble!!

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/05/2012 13:03

I got wise to insisting on seeing the inventory before signing anything after a mate got shown round a lovely, furnished flat with beautiful furniture, mirrors ... only to find when she got there it had all been replaced with cheap tat as it was the 'show' furniture. We were all pretty wet behind the ears and were really shocked.

That was agents managing a big block of flats though, and probably unlike most private LL really.

We got our current sofa from the previous place we rented, because it was left there but not on the inventory, so the agent let us use it while we were there then take it with us when we left - nice bonus!

sausagesandmarmelade · 04/05/2012 13:13

Calmly explain your situation and ask him if he could possibly remove his one.

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wonderstuff · 04/05/2012 13:32

Did that sausage - he said no.
That is shocking LRD surely broke trade description act?

I was ripped off by my first student landlord who charged us for the damage to furniture that was already damaged when we moved in - cheeky bastard tried to charge us for a sofa the previous tennants had brought. We were savvy enough to take some photos when we moved in - too stupid to remember where whe had left them when we came to move out..

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/05/2012 13:36

I'd never thought of it like that wonder. I think probably if she'd been older and more savvy she would have seen the signs and realized she was being shown a show flat that wasn't intended to stay furnished like that when she moved in. It said so in the inventory, which is how I learned you just have to check them every time, and make sure there's no possible loophole for misunderstanding.

I am quite hyper-cautious, though. Sounds like you mostly are too.

DontmindifIdo · 04/05/2012 13:51

odd, I've never seen a 'unfurnished' place for rent that didn't have white goods, that's just the norm really. My advice would be to get rid of your washing machine and use the one that the landlord provides, because if it breaks, then it's their responsibilty to fix it/replace it. If anything happens to your one, then the bills to fix it are down to you - plus others will confirm if I've got this right, but I thought that if the washing machine leaked and there was water damage, if it was the landlord's machine, they would have to fix that damage, if it was yours, you'd have to pay for it as well as fixing the machine.

Sell your washing machine or see if anyone will store it for you. And you know you might not be 'paying their mortgage' - my parents are now mortgage free on their rental property, their tenants are paying for my mum's lunches out...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/05/2012 13:58

I think it varies a lot depending where you are in the country. I have noticed that in one place where we lived for a while, anything not absolutely bare counted as 'furnished' and you'd often find white goods plus a bed frame were all that was there. Other areas of the country, 'furnished' meant that everything down to cutlery in the kitchen was there!

I think it has to do with the way that different expectations develop in different areas, so if you're somewhere where most of the people who rent are v. young or students, you find a lot of properties come with white goods because otherwise they'd never get taken. But if you're somewhere with lots of older, more established people renting, there's an assumption those people will have furnishings to bring with them.

Murtette · 04/05/2012 14:09

If you bought a washing machine for your existing place, then there obviously isn't going to be one there when you move out so you could ask your landlady or the new tenants if they want to buy it from you?
Otherwise, could you contact your new landlord and ask if you can get rid of his washing machine one the basis that you will leave yours there when you move out. At least that way you'd get to use your washing machine whilst you live there.
You say that you can't get a lease for more than a year. Are you sure about that? In the place we rented which we moved into just before DD was born, our initial period was for 18mth & only after that did we move onto a break clause & had to give 3 mth notice. We suggested that to the LL as we wanted certainty where we were going to be living and the LL jumped at it as it meant he knew he wouldn't have any void periods during that time. I think he even gave us a rent reduction (v small - about £20 a month) as a result.

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