Mumsnet and McDonalds

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DH popped into a Mcdonalds yesterday to (ahem) use the facilities. Did his usual trick of taking his iPhone with him, and later let me know that when he was connecting to the Internet, the free wifi for McDonalds users popped up 'in conjunction with Mumsnet'!!! The blurb on mumsnet still says they don't allow advertising from mcdonalds, but when we googled it, it turns out this ban was lifted last May, and 'Mumsnet is proud to be associated with the family friendly restaurant'. .

WTF? You might be, MNHQ, but I'm not.

mnet isnt school tho is it? we have said that, i wouldnt be happy with advertising in school, but as a parent i am capable of saying NO.

and i dislike this attitude that we need to stop the advertising to help those who 'cant help themselves' how about we credit them with some intelligence, maybe they havent had the education or opportunities most of us have had but that doesnt mean that they need protecting from advertisig or else they will make the wrong choices.

eduaction and information yes, but treating them like a child that cant make the right choices!! its just rude and condesending tbh and that condesending attitude is what comes across on mnet at times and it does put people off using the site or asking for advice.

The Guardian. Is that paper still in business? Must be down to less than 200k readers now.

That seems more a reason por fluoridation in water to begin than anti McD"s

surely to goodness no one thinks that mcdonald meals are good for you and deliciously healthy, do they? it's junk food, something to be eaten in moderation.

the only dispute here is what moderation means, and how we should respond to people who purvey junk food. plenty of doctors want advertising and toys etc banned. this just won't affect me in the short term, because i (like everyone on MN, i'd warrant) feel quite happy about the exposure my kids have to mcdonalds. but there are some people who don't have any sense of moderation, and there is a case to be made that MN associating with the brand in any way will help to shore up the notion that it's okay for them to feed it to their kids all the time.

personally i don't believe in that sort of nanny state-ish intervention, but i don't think that everyone who does is automatically off their head.

Novak you haven't answered any of my points but instead ignore the vast maj,you rant about how wonderful McD is and you refuse to except that McD is anything other than healthy food"wholesome" as you put it.I find your obsession with proclaiming McD as a healthy food choice quite scary.

None of what I have posted is inaccurate.

As Aitch says the defensiveness is shocking and quite clearly the McD advertising is doing a grand job

x-posted with 5madboys. do agree with you for the most part, but i guess i don't find it any more pleasant to see people tearing MrsH apart just because she doesn't think the same as the majority on this thread. five years ago she would have done, and MN would never have made this brand association. things change, but we should be able to discuss it without turning into a bunch of angry weirdoes i think.

So do tell Novak what's wrong with The Guardian now?

Thank you Aitch I appreciate it.

sorry not 5 madboys, 5madthings. yyy totally MN isn't school. i don't really care about this brand association, like i say. although i would have been at a tag line that suggested mn endorsed it as a family restaurant.

OH MY GOD!! Not McDonalds?? Seriously??? That is shocking. How DARE MN associate themselves when that vile, chavvy, junk food hell hole.

alternatively get a life and stop being such a holier than thou food snob

well i dont think i have torn Mrsh apart? i have responded when she has asked me questions and vice versa, all very civil between us? and i dont think i have turned into an angry wierdo!

and aitch tis 5madTHINGS, thing5 is a girl! the other 4 are boys tho and i was 4madboys before :)

you're welcome, mrsh. am surprised at how heated this has become. it's just crappy burgers, at the end of the day. but the brownies... heaven i am telling you, just heaven...

lol cross posted aitch

no, not you 5madwhateverthefucks. congrats on your latest!

For godsake mrsheffley!!

*no-one is saying mcdonalds is healthy. If we ate nothing but healthy food then it would be boring. Chocolate isnt healthy but we still eat it. It can make your teeth decay but as long as we brush our teeth its fine. Alcohol isnt healthy but I know alot if mners who reguarly have a glass of wine. very very contradicting!

and again.

makes note to try out the brownies next time i pass a mcdonalds...

actually, pimp, earlier on today there were quite a few people claiming that the food was healthy, iirc.

But...but... MrsHeffley, McDonalds hasn't influenced you in it's advertising, you won't eat it. Why the fuck do you feel you are exempt from the power of advertising?
The same question I asked another poster above.
So everybody on this thread that has admitted they sometimes have McDonalds are gullible, and brainwashed by advertising.
But of course, your'e not.

oh she is 16mths old now! just took me an age to bother changing me name! lazy cant be arsed emotion...

Aitch - so would I as I don't consider it a restaurant. Its more a caf, akin to the one in the Apprentice but without the good bacon sarnies.

incidentally, I did wonder when I saw a couple of boden clad ladies earlier with smallish dc if they had somehow been drawn to mcd because of this thread

You have been provided with facts that McD's provides healthy options for eating numerous times today by me. You have not posted anything that demonstrates any causal link of McD's to obesity in the UK

majority has actually been saying that they occasionaly eat McD's

i have been saying since the start its parental responsibility that is needed and this site can take cash from whomever legal corporation they want.

I did not say anything against the Guardian. I express surprise in a flippant manner that it is still in Business. with a readership of less than half of one percent of the population.

I'll give em a whirl.

i thought the op had come back and clarified that it doesnt actually say 'mnet proud to be associated with a family friendly restaraunt' that was just her take/report on what her dh said?

personally i would be more horrified at her dh using the iphone on the loo [boak]

that's why i wouldn't be bothered by this particular association, but would if there were fast food ads in schools. don't think mrsh is saying she's immune to advertising at all, she's saying that it has an impact and some people want to use it to continue doing shit things anyway. and it definitely has an effect on kids, that's acknowledged, hence the junk food ad ban on kids telly.

yup, 5mad, Justine said she'd be horrified at it if it were true as well.