Football culture is far more harmful to women's rights and wellbeing than porn culture.

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For a start, football culture gives a far more pervasive, wide-ranging and monolithic message: men are gods and women are either decorative accessories or foodstuff. It's misogyny and toxic masculinity encapsulated. Never mind the fact that the England women's football team have apparently won the world cup more often than the England men's team: there's the whole WAG thing, where being someone's appendage is a prize girls are told to covet, yet if they actually try to seek this prize they are demonized as sluts and gold-diggers, there's the way in which rape is seen as far more forgivable than being gay... and hard evidence that violence against women has a big upsurge every time there's a major football match on.

fgs that's mental

this is AIBU not the feminist board, so not sure what you are asking is unreasonable...

Could you possibly be in the wrong topic OP?

I don't understand your intial post. Its more incomprehensible than the offside rule.

The pies are nice though

Agree.. most of the blokes I know that are heavily into it, are misogynistic and entitled and sit on their arses watching the game while expecting to be waited on and ignoring their DC... disclaimer: this is just personal observation

I totally agree with the OP. I got locked in the toilet once during an FA cup match. My dad left me there till the match finished. A clear breach of Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

You get all that from a few games of football?

Don't be daft!!

Football is great, it keeps all of the non U people in one place and occupied with their mindless tribalism. Long may it continue.

well, I've only been to a dozen or so, but there seem to be plenty of families, women, or fathers with their sons and daughters there.

this is to heavy going for me op,i hardly understood a word

p.s i would love to be a WAG

Yawn. Watching match of the day with dh and dss, I Love footii and neither wag or lesbian!!! Op don't be daft,

Yawn. Watching match of the day with dh and dss, I Love footii and neither wag or lesbian!!! Op don't be daft,

"men are gods and women are either decorative accessories or foodstuff."

Bollocks. I'm a professional in the sport. And a woman. And, like thebody, neither wag nor lesbian. So I say it again. Bollocks.

The women's toilets at the San Siro stadium were harmful to my rights bleurgh

I thought the evidence for upswing of dv around football was only for Old Firm matches? Maybe I just haven't seen the other stuff though.

But I disagree, porn is worse.

I love football. You never have to queue long for the ladies loos and you get to shout wanker at the Lino. Never felt more equal in my life. So in my humble opinion YABVVU.

SGB I completely agree with you.

and lots of the bad things now surrounding football ARE because of the porn culture not because of football itself.

and i for one was screeching with excitment when Southampton got promoted to the Premier League yesterday

Nothing like a good old rant n' run in the wrong topic is there OP?

Not sure I think MORE damaging, about the same imvho, with both having a massive negative impact.

I always found it difficult to know when to stand up and when to sit down.

Disagree