AIBU advice needed about HORRIBLE teacher?

[MrsShitty]

on behalf of my sister who is very upset. Her son is a very good year three child...very well behaved and has been excelling at school, on the g&t register and loves school...his reports are always that he is a good and kind boy, often voted as class rep etc.

This term his class have been taught by 2 teachers both of whom teach year 4...they were sort of tasters for nexyt year to get the DC used to their new teachers.

Yesterday my nephew came home and was very upset. He said that Miss T had screamed in his face...my nephew is almost deaf in one ear due to problems from birth and has had both eardrums burst in the past and this woman screamed so loud his ear was hurt...he cried in pain.

She screamed because my nephew had been going for a pencil and had tripped over another childs leg....she accused my nephew of kicking the other boy and would not listen when my nephew AND the other boy tried to explain he had tripped. INstead she yelled repeatedly as loud as she could in his face that she would not be talked back to and then she told him to sit on the carpet and removed his golden time...she threw his book at him.

My hephew says she has also shouted at him for other minor things such as dropping his book once. She also banged the chair of a little girl up and down with the child still sitting in it....whilst shouting "Go to the toilet then!" and the little girl was crying.

My sister says her normally happy boy has been in tears and could not sleep for three nights until all this came out last night. He is afraid of this woman and his poor ear is still hurting.

My sister has made an appointment to see the HT tonight she does not want to speak to the teacher....she feels she has nothing to say to the woman. I must add that her son is very sensible and very truthful he would not lie....the teacher is new and this is her first job.

What measures should my sister ask to take place? What should the outcome be? And who should she write to in the event that she is still not happy after the meeting? The LEA or board of governers? Thank you. I am very upset about my nephew who has had multiple operations on his ears and only has 30% hearing in the one this woman hurt.

Says the person who grades posts.

Anyway...

Echt I mentioned that I had been a teacher, only to illustrate that I have known quite a few and to point out that, as in all jobs, there are some people who are brilliant at what they do and others who really shouldn't be there at all.

How am I grading posts?

If my brother told me the same about my DN I would have no reason to question his perception of a persons tone. I don't think most people would otherwise we would never take anyones account of things seriously.

Not you hathor!

So you automatically believe every word a child of what, 7?, tells you?

Good luck with that when he hits 17.

No but I would believe my brother and his take on the situation. Why wouldn't I?

I think karma is referring to me, hat.

The lack of sense on the part of purple is not surprising as grading is seen as an emotional response, rather than a stab at their ex-teacher status. Or should I say ex-"teacher".:o

It's called an irony deficiency.

Because the whole situation is based on the word of a 7 year old.

And I'm not for one second saying he's lying, just saying that it could be a matter of interpretation.

And I'll tell you this much.

If he gets this upset over a teacher shouting and is so fragile that the wind blowing bursts his eardrum and has his mother rushing into school and his aunt thankful that teachers are crapping themselves and wanting teachers put down the drain - then god help him when he goes to secondary school.

Spot on, hat.

Her son is a very good year three child...very well behaved and has been excelling at school, on the g&t register and loves school...his reports are always that he is a good and kind boy, often voted as class rep etc.

her son is very sensible and very truthful he would not lie

he is a bright boy...he wasn't making it up.

You see, call me a cynic but I find it hard to have complete faith in the OP's ability to approach this with anything like a level head and an open mind.
That is not to say that it didn't happen exactly as the child says - who knows? But it's the immediate and unwavering conviction that there could not possibly be another side to the story worth hearing that worries me.

BTW, does anyone remember what I said at 12.22 yesterday that got me deleted? I have absolutely NO idea what my post was!

No clue, Hilly, but if you email HQ and ask, they'll tell you

You have seem to have very little to add to this thread echt so it's really not surprising you resort to insulting peoples intelligence. It's sadly wasted on my though as I couldn't give a flying fig! Carry on if you must.

Look, I understand perfectly that children can stretch the truth I have a 4 year old (a recent corker was when asked why his school trousers were covered in mud he responded that his teacher had painted the mud on them :o ) but the child in this situation was said to be very upset and in pain due to his ear, As I have no reason to doubt that he has problems with his ear drum I would also take this very seriously.

I didn't read it as "the mother rushed into school", She was concerned and went to the HT. Of course she could have went to the teacher first but that's her choice. It's hardly pandering.

I still think the unerring belief totally and utterly in the child smacks of blinkers.

But, as I said, my eldest is 21, I have been there done that and got the t-shirt and I am a cynical old bat.

Haha! Yes, me too hath!

DS starts "Big School" in September... Eek, Should I be scared?

:o

DD sees an ent surgeon who is at clinical director level, as did DS (same surgeon). I am actually flabbergasted that he has never advised me that either she or DS are at risk of eardrum rupture due to the wind blowing.

I really am going to ask him about this.

And again, (absolutely not casting any aspersions on the OP, her nephew or his mother) I have in 20 years of parenting come across some really sly, spiteful, downright hideous children whose mothers really do think they are perfect and beyond reproach.

Hilly - me too

Have I insulted your intelligence, purple? Hmm. Hard to see how I'd be able to do that.

So much easier to abuse than argue. You're right about it being wasted on you, though.

Nighty night.

There was an 'incident' a few weeks ago with DD1 at school which was quite serious. Fortunately the head teacher took the view, 'we listen to children...'

This Op and style of posting is really familiar. One about an argument with a head or something a few weeks back. Was deleted in the end .
Anyway I'm back to enjoy my yummy roast beef dinner.

Fortunately the head teacher took the view, 'we listen to children...'
Absolutely. Glad to hear it. Let's just hope s/he also took the view "we listen to our staff." Particularly when such accusations are levelled against them.

See most schools would take a sensible and pragmatic approach. Talk to the child, talk to the teacher. Get information from any other witnesses and try and work out as well as possible what actually happened and then put a plan of acction in place to move forward.
I speak as someone with a foot in both camps, as a 10 year old I was horribly bullied by a teacher and bottled it up for weeks. Fortunately my mum believed me (and she generally would have sided with the teacher) and went to the school and very politely spoke to the teacher and told him in no uncertain terms to stop.
On the flip side I have seen the horrible impact on a teacher who was falsely accused. The stress and distress they experienced was horrific. To hear the OP gloating that the teacher would be "shitting herself" for shame you excuse for a human being.
Balance and rational action is called for in situations like this when they really happen.