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to think Sun readers are as lowlife as the hackers

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 09:27

That's it really. Anyone who is aware of the Sun's treatment of people such as Millie Dowler's parents, and of Ann Diamond is as complicit and scuzzy as the people at the Sun who condoned it.

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Olympia2012 · 27/04/2012 09:32

What about those of us ( and you) who click on links which cone from 'The Sun'??

Once it's done it's done...

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 09:33

But I'm not giving them any money for that. ( And have probably looked at about 3 Sun links in my life)

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ethelb · 27/04/2012 09:37

yes. i am a journo (though trade) and think the public got the papers they deserved.

LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 09:47

Actually an awful lot of Military Personnel read / buy The Sun as the paper gives a lot of support to the Military, to Help for Heroes, to Forces Discounts, The Millies etc. Help that their own government, that the MoD has declined to give.

I certainly would not call those people 'scuzzy' ( Hmm how charming)

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 09:49

Listen to Radio 5 and there's a father of a military man who was killed who does not have the best of opinions of the Sun.

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LowFlyingBirds · 27/04/2012 09:51

Agree.

LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 10:01

So one man whose son died doesn't like The Sun, and that gives you carte blanche to call everyone else who does 'Scuzzy'?

I'm not defending the actions of The Sun reporters regarding the phone hacking case, that was disgraceful, but that doesn't make people that do read it - that use the services The Sun provides (Jobs for Heroes for example), Scuzzy.

SeaHouses · 27/04/2012 10:03

I agree. I don't know how anybody can justify buying it. Even before the hacking thing happened, it is obvious that they make stuff up, grossly exaggerate it or report on stuff that even if true is not really anybody else's business. Often it isn't even about celebrities but about quite ordinary people whose lives are ruined by it.

The Forces excuse is just a whole load of 'I'm alright Jack.'

LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 10:04

Oh, and our household won't buy The Sun after their actions following Hillsborough (my father forbade us to have it in the house, and when I met DH - a Liverpool fan - he had grown up with the same rule), but I certainly wouldn't denegrate anyone that did.

Olympia2012 · 27/04/2012 10:04

Forces 'excuse'??

LowFlyingBirds · 27/04/2012 10:06

So are forces people immune from being immoral now? Who knew?

BusinessTrills · 27/04/2012 10:07

YABU - you are making a ridiculous generalisation.

LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 10:07

Wow - become a triple amputee after being blown up in Afghan, council houses you in a Tower Block, H4H can't help - but when The Sun goes to town on the Council a suitable home is 'suddenly' made available...

That's being "I'm alright Jack"...Priceless.

Olympia2012 · 27/04/2012 10:08

Your op says sun READERS not purchasers!!!

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 10:09

it's not one man though. It's a culture going back many years of treating people like dirt for their own means. And their own means seem to be that their readers want to see things like the funeral of Ann Diamond's baby despite her begging them to stay away. So yes, if you want to look at those sort of pictures, I think that's pretty scuzzy.
( that's just one example of many)

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LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 10:09

Where did I say that forces peeople are immune from being immoral? How wonderfully Passive Aggressive.

SeaHouses · 27/04/2012 10:13

Yes, it is being, 'I'm alright Jack.'

Are you suggesting it is okay to support a corrupt institution that breaks the law and ruins other people's lives as long as you get housing from it?

AlbertoFrog · 27/04/2012 10:13

I wonder if any other newspapers have been guilty of this practice?

And just not been caught yet.

SeaHouses · 27/04/2012 10:14

AF, I think it is likely.

LowFlyingBirds · 27/04/2012 10:14

Well you seem to besaying that op's point cant possibly be valid because people in the forces read the sun.

Im assuming that you mean forces people cant be 'scuzzy' by virtue of their profession?

I wouldhave assumed military has the same ratio of arseholes as the rest of the population, dont personally go in for all this Hero bollocks. Thats all.

However all this rather bizarre talk of forces personnel is quite a tangent...

LtEveDallas · 27/04/2012 10:17

So moogster1a, you aren't actually saying that all Sun readers are Scuzzy.

You are saying that Sun readers that want to see things like the funeral of Ann Diamond's baby, or Sun readers that support the actions of the reporters that hacked the phones of Milly Dowler's parents et al are scuzzy.

Well, that's completely different and quite understandable.

(although what would you call people that want to see things like that, who don't read the Sun? Are they still scuzzy, or is it the combination that makes them scuzzy?)

Voidka · 27/04/2012 10:19

Someone that has returned home from supporting their country at war and has lost his limbs in the process, who then has to go through the humiliation of being housed somewhere he cant even access 100% and somewhere he struggled to leave is entitled to have an 'I'm alright Jack attitude' imo.

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 10:19

But the readers obviously want to see those things, otherwise they would buy a different paper.
And yes, people who don't read the Sun who want to see that are also scuzzy, but that wasn't the point of my conversation...

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Voidka · 27/04/2012 10:20

struggles

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moogster1a · 27/04/2012 10:20

Why has this turned into an armed forces discussion?

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