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Mmm.... racism?

265 replies

laughlovelife · 17/04/2012 11:16

I have a friend who wont date black men, not because they are black but because she does not find black men attractive, in the same way she wont date a man who has blond hair and blue eyes.

I cant work out if she is racist or it is simply her preference in men, she has many friends who are the above, but still I'm Hmm so is she racist or not Confused

OP posts:
WorraLiberty · 17/04/2012 12:48

I know black people who don't date other black people

I know white people who don't date other white people

I know black people who will only date paler skinned black people

It's not about race for these people, it's about what they find physically attractive/pleasing to the eye.

BupcakesandCunting · 17/04/2012 12:49

I generally don't find myself attracted to black men either. I would ride Tinie Tempah and Thiery Henry like Blackpool donkeys but on the street, I've never clocked a black guy that I've fancied. I've got a pretty, errrrm, worldy list of conquests so I'm not worried that I'm a racist now, father.

I don't like blond men. Now that's a sweeping generalisation. I would never be with a blond man. Ever. Can't think of a single one I'd like a bunk up with.

TheRhubarb · 17/04/2012 12:55

What a pathetic, shit stirring OP.

You already said that she won't date men with blonde hair and blue eyes either but that presumably does not make her racist. So you answered your own rather childish and immature question.

Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. The fact that she simply doesn't find black men attractive enough to date but is happy to be friends with them does not signify that she thinks her own race is superior.

I have 2 black brothers yet I don't find black men that attractive, in the broadest terms, either. Neither do I find blonde haired men attractive. Does this make me racist? What a load of cock and balls!

squeakytoy · 17/04/2012 12:55

Brad Pitt?

porcamiseria · 17/04/2012 12:57

I do not like this thread, AT ALL

i dont think it would be very nice for a black man to read this

SHAME ON YOU

BupcakesandCunting · 17/04/2012 12:59

Brad pitt makes my toes curl. He looks like he would smell of dried wee.

LentillyFart · 17/04/2012 13:01

He could smell of fermented yaks milk with gentle undertones of toe cheese for all I care - I'd still have a go!

Grin
Hownoobrooncoo · 17/04/2012 13:01

You're right Porca, it doesn't read well and I have contributed to that.

TheRhubarb · 17/04/2012 13:02

Report. I just have.

WorraLiberty · 17/04/2012 13:02

Lentilly Grin

That's quite a niche perversion you've got going on there!

WorraLiberty · 17/04/2012 13:03

Why would anyone want to report the thread? Confused

For once it seems to be a unanimous YABU....a rare thing on MN.

Hownoobrooncoo · 17/04/2012 13:04

Saying that, blonde/fair guys were never my thing but there are at least three actors I've had a HUGE crush on who are blonde/ginger so guess I'm just a crazy mixed up kid - not Brad Pitt though, sorry Brad!

penguinsoup · 17/04/2012 13:04

Get her a subscription :o

LentillyFart · 17/04/2012 13:05

I know worra, I know........... Blush

hiviolet · 17/04/2012 13:06

I think there's a slight undercurrent of racism, yes.

It's rarely a simple case of "well I just don't find black men attractive". If you questioned her further about WHY then you might find some quite unsavoury opinions lurking under the surface.

Isn't it rather blinkered to write off ALL men of a particular race, be it black or Chinese or whatever "because I don't find them attractive". That in itself leaves someone on shaky ground, imo. Next thing you know they'll be saying they don't like wide noses or slanted eyes Hmm

For me, attraction isn't just based on looks but personality as well. Surely that's normal?

aliceinboots · 17/04/2012 13:07

I have never dated a ginger haired bloke. Don't find the whole pasty skin/freckles combo particularly sexy.
I have a few friends (women and men) with ginger hair.
OP, you're being riduculous.

Safire · 17/04/2012 13:07

I think those getting upset are seriously overreacting. It sounds like you think it's ok for people to think these things so long as they don't actually express them. Is it not more honest to say you wouldn't date someone from another race, for whatever reason, rather than pretend you would just to seem nice? I'd say the latter was hypocrisy which is just as bad, if not worse.

SoupDragon · 17/04/2012 13:08

"It's rarely a simple case of "well I just don't find black men attractive". If you questioned her further about WHY then you might find some quite unsavoury opinions lurking under the surface. "

What unsavoury opinions do you think lurk under the surface of the fact that she won't date blond haired blue eyed men either?

squeakytoy · 17/04/2012 13:09

But maybe she has just never met a black man she finds attractive... unless she has a constant stream of them beating a path to ask her out.

I wouldnt want to date someone with tattoos on their face.. does that make me a tattooist???? Wink

WorraLiberty · 17/04/2012 13:09

I don't particularly like wide noses hiviolet or slanted eyes.

But what does that have to do with black or chinese people?

They don't all have wide noses or slanted eyes you know Hmm

TheRhubarb · 17/04/2012 13:09

The reason this thread is so bad is because this is not the views of the OP, it's apparently the views of her 'friend'.

Such a spurious thread was surely only started with the intent to cause trouble.

BupcakesandCunting · 17/04/2012 13:09

Oh the black guy from The Apprentice.

LIKE SEABISCUIT.

Hubba hubba etc.

AMumInScotland · 17/04/2012 13:09

I don't see anything objectionable about this thread, apart from the odd view of the OP that something this straightforward would be racist. Nobody is saying "black men are not attractive", only that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that everyone makes subconscious choices about who they feel attracted to. I'm sure any black men who happened to read the thread would agree that they find people attractive or not on the basis of all sorts of things, and that it doesn't make anyone racist/agist/sexist to have those preferences.

LentillyFart · 17/04/2012 13:10

hiviolet - sorry, but you are being absurd. There is NOTHING racist at all about finding a particular look unattractive to oneself personally. Some people just won't be happy until they've found a bloody 'ism' in everything.
What do you suggest? Government legislation to force us to date anyone in case you might be racist/ageist/blonde-hairist/shortish/tallist/jug-earsist?
Absolutely bloody ridiculous!

Empusa · 17/04/2012 13:10

"What unsavoury opinions do you think lurk under the surface of the fact that she won't date blond haired blue eyed men either?"

Was just about to ask the same thing!

I've never fancied blond men, does that mean I (unconsciously) hold some unsavoury beliefs about blondes??