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to be upset DM left 9 week old alone all night...

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kiki22 · 09/04/2012 20:00

DS stayed over with my mum last night for the first time he is 9 weeks i know some may say this is to early and why would i want my baby to stay away but i am happy with him staying with his grandparents over night so don't need any advice on that it's what happened last night that i'd like opinions on.

When DS is at home he goes up to the bedroom to his crib about 7 and stays there alone untill i go to bed about 10 with the baby monitor on then is in the room with us the rest of the night. My mum has a bedroom for my niece at her house which isn't used as DN sleeps with DM the plan last night was to settle DS in the kids room and DN in DMs room then swap them at DS 12am feed i was ok with this as DSD would be awake until then.

What actually happened was at 12 they decided not to move the kids incase DN (5) woke up as 'she would be up for ages' at first i thought DSD co-slept in the single bed with DS which i wasn't very happy with anyway since he had his pram he could have slept in as need be but then i was told actually DM DSD and DN all slept together while DS slept down the hall on his own all night apart from his 12 and 4 feeds.

I am so upset not only because of the risks of cot death or any major problem that are unlikely but the thought of my tiny baby waking up all alone during the night. He quite often wakes and moans a little to be settled so even tho it didn't happen if he did wake he would have had to cry loud enough to wake someone sleeping in another room to be comforted by which point he would be very upset. AIBU or would you be upset to? I said something earlier which was brushed off but really feel like i need to tell her it's not acceptable and would like an apology tbh.

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naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 11:49

I am in shock at.the idea that babies shouldn't nap alone till 6 months. Can someone please link this ? I am proffesionally.involved in SIDS prevention (and investigation of SIDs) I have not heard of this. IMO it is like the WHO guidence on breast feeding and ultimately counterproductive.

MickyDodger · 10/04/2012 11:53

Not nap, sleep all night alone. Professionally involved how if you've never heard of such a thing?

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 11:55

Sorry just reread that. To be clear the SIDS prevention advice is currently (I thought) straight forward and easy to follow. If it changes (or has changed in last 18m) to not leaving babies to nap alone until 6 months this would be massively impractical for the majority of parents. (like.soley breastfeeding for 6 months)

MickyDodger · 10/04/2012 11:57

SIDS advice in my country is for babies under 6 months to sleep next to or near their parents at night. Are you saying this isn't the case in the UK? Because if it isn't, it should be. I don't see whats difficult to follow about that, since most people do it instinctively anyway.

sweetkitty · 10/04/2012 11:57

Like everyone else has said if your not happy with it don't send him to stay with her.

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 11:58

Yes the advice is tthat babies are at least risk on their back,in their own cot in their parents room.Which is.easy to understand and practical that is very different to never putting a sleeping baby in a.different.room

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 11:59

I was asking if not leaving a sleeping baby alone had been added to the.advice

LilBlondePessimist · 10/04/2012 12:02

naughtymummy fsid.org.uk/page.aspx?pid=420

Sorry if I've done that wrong - not great with these things. It's in the first few lines.

And no, fwiw I don't think trying to prevent my children suffering from cot death constitutes trying to win best mummy! I'd have said it was a natural instinct! What a horrible thing to say.

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 12:02

TBH the 2 biggest risk factors by far are front sleeping and parental smoking. The whole.co-sleeping argument is much less straightforward.

callmemrs · 10/04/2012 12:04

9/4 22:16 - lilblonde upthread stated as a fact that babies under 6 months should not be allowed to nap alone. Not about sleeping just at night. Napping.

LilBlondePessimist · 10/04/2012 12:05

The advice given is 'night and day', same as here in Australia.

Why is it impractical to exclusively bf for six month either? Sorry if I read that wrong.

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 12:05

LBP I don't beleive I said that. Thanks for the link. I do wonder what the increased risk is for daytime.sleep. I think it would be.difficult for many people to follow.

Kayano · 10/04/2012 12:05

I think I will continue to make my own decisions on my own child. All the guidelines make it seem like there is a one size fits all for parenting.

A lot of people who go on about breastfeeding guidelines often overlook the no cosleeping guidelines.

People can make their own choices what is best for them and their family and I was such a ratty and pita mum when I was tring to follow guidelines perfectly I had to call time

I do find there is a lot of pressure now a days to follow guidelines
That they don't take into account individual people (be it baby or mother) or any mental health issues. I'm not interested in being a martyr 'I didn't sleep for 9 months!' if it means I have more anxiety attacks when it comes to looking after baby.

Ps- the baby just ha the biggest poo ever typing this so I'll be back later. Yuk! Lol

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 12:07

It is obviously impractical to exclusive breast feed for 6 months as such a small proportion of mothers manage it despite expressing this as their intention

naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 12:08

Sorry for most women (some do acclomplish it)

LilBlondePessimist · 10/04/2012 12:11

Tbh I think the risks during daytime sleep are the same as at night - sleeping 'too deeply', not rousing from apnoea, not having parental sounds to regulate them. It's a topic which is close to me and I find upsetting. And sorry if I misread your 11:55 post, I thought you said that bf solely for 6mths was impractical.

tooscary · 10/04/2012 12:15

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Turniphead1 · 10/04/2012 12:16

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naughtymummy · 10/04/2012 12:18

As I should have said I last was actively involved in SIDS work 18m ago.I see thte website was updated in March. I am not currently actively invoved although still very interested. I think there is a danger if the advice becomes too perscriptive that people will find it difficult to follow.As I said the biggest modifyable (sp) risks are smoking and front sleeping. I wonder if it would be better if the advice reflected this.

LilBlondePessimist · 10/04/2012 12:23

Peculiar how? I don't really get that. We have a basket that can be moved from lounge to dining room if need be and a crib/cot in our bedroom. We also have a pram with flat carry cot which could have been used if we didn't have a basket. Surely baby can just be put to sleep in whichever room you are working/sitting/eating etc in at the time. I genuinely don't see where the difficulty is with this and am not just being arsey for the sake of being arsey.

callmemrs · 10/04/2012 12:27

Lilblonde- YOU have been defending your posts against criticisms by stating countless times that you are only repeating guidelines which are the result of scientific research.

Could you please link to the evidence about naps (as opposed to night time sleeping)?

If there is no such evidence, and it is sin

AppleAndBlackberry · 10/04/2012 12:27

I think it sounds like you didn't really want him to go. I know I felt very anxious about being away from my children when they were tiny, I hope you don't feel like you have to give in to your Mum on things that you don't really want to do.

Kayano · 10/04/2012 12:28

Your baby is asleep in the living room on their play mat

You need to do the dishes in the kitchen.

To move baby is to wake baby and dishes won't get done

Wwyd? I'd leave the baby napping next door while I quickly did the dishes.

(gasp)

callmemrs · 10/04/2012 12:28

Oops posted too soon

If this is simply your own feelings about naps, then that's fine, it's your baby and your choice. But you should not post things as fact if that's the case. That IS scaremongering. And this is too serious and sensitive a topic to scaremonger about

LilBlondePessimist · 10/04/2012 12:29

Try reading the thread callmemrs and you'll see the link about 14 post up from here. Thanks.

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