to tell an elderly gent to f*ck off

[Helenfellows33]

i was on a family day out on a steam train and on the way home an infirm old man got on with his carer. she left shortly after and he was on his own in his wheelchair with me and my dh and dc's. this journey was about an hour long and ds being cranky started to cry. and the old man turned to him and shouted at him to be quiet boy. at this i told him to shut the fuck up and a list of words i cant mention here. dh backed me up although i was telling a friend later she said he was ok too this as he was old, we are now not speaking cause of this. AIBU for doing that to an elderly person.

Op, you are a loon. he didn't threaten your family, unless he shouted at your child to shut up or he would

You lost any moral high ground as soon as you swore at the man.

OP - perhaps its tome for to say that you now realise you were BU and are full of remorse and realise this is no way to behave.

It now feels like we are not telling you anything you don't already know by now and I am sure you have heard enough. :(

*time

And the OP will be a foul mouthed old woman one day. The sort I'd rather not bump in to either.

Hopefully, you'll retain all your faculties OP, it would be a fine twist of fate if you ended up in the old man's position one day, eh.

none of the old people i know and there are quiet few bigJessie would have shouted at a toddler like that.

infact my family and two elderly relatives had lunch in a very upmarket gastro pub the day before with no problems at all. as i said its not normal for ne to swear like a fishwife as many have you put it.

most old people have had children an accept they can cry and not shout at them.

Ladybeagle....ahhhhhhh, the "make them get up and walk" woman?

Figures.

Were you drunk perhaps OP?

yes and most parents can stand up for their children without resorting to abusing and elderly man in a wheelchair. you are disgusting. you know this. why are you still trying to justify it?

infact my family and two elderly relatives had lunch in a very upmarket gastro pub the day before with no problems at all

Well done. Have a Tufty badge.

Bet it's not an up market pub anymore.

Still waiting for The Threat details.

were you actually doing anything to try and distract your child, or were you just ignoring him while he wailed?

Anyone else feel quite sorry for the old man. He had a carer so was probably extremely old and possibly suffering from dementia. This could have ruined a special day out for him. Maybe he wasn't in his right mind.

Poor guy.

You don't think any of the old people you know would shout at a toddler? YET.

People change as they age, and as they develop illnesses. Your elderly relatives who lunch in up-market restaurants may very well be less tolerant of loud children in ten to twenty years.

My own typo leads me to ask: did you mean upmarket, or up-the-market?

Harvester?

did you tell us about your upmarket gastro pub to explain you are not Common . Just accept you over stepped the mark and swore and ranted like a loony on a train ,

Its like shooting fish in a bucket isn't it. Must... stop.. and... get ...on ... with ... some... wooooorrkkkkk.....

Normal or not is irrelevant. The fact is, you did swear at a frail old man, and badly. In front of children, in a public place.

And you still can't see that you were very, very wrong to do so. Despite being told unanimously that YABVVU.

I'm really glad I don't know anyone like you.

"i told him to shut the fuck up and a list of words i cant mention here. " - how lovely for him, for your children and every one else sitting near - for future reference an alternative reaction would be to say "oh he's just tired and cranky, been a long day etc.." and actually engage him in conversation. Or you could say "he's a child, he's tired, please don't speak like that" or almost anything really apart from what you did.

It does seem likely though that you should get your son used to people telling him to be quiet if you usually behave the way you describe in your original post. What you're teaching him is that its ok to be rude, too shout at elderly, to curse etc - you're not teaching him to stand up for himself in any useful way

This a wind up surely. No normal person would shout at an old man. In fact shouting at people in public at all, especially in front of children is totally not on.

If you had an issue with this man, you could have spoken to him calmly and explained how you felt. Like most people.

Totally over the top if it's true.

drunk with two small children no i was not. im protective no matter who it is. if it was a six foot rugby player my reaction would have been no different. if he had asked politely i wouldn't have said what i did. but to shout at a person who is less than a third his size. who cried more for him doing what he did is not on.

i am allowed to disagree one bad sentence does not make me jeremy kyle fodder.

none of the old people i know and there are quiet few bigJessie would have shouted at a toddler like that

thankfully none of the people that I know would speak to an elderly disabled person like that... :) .. and if they did, they certainly wouldnt be someone I would want to associate with.

I'm astounded people are incredulous that there are individuals like the OP out there. Do you not watch Jezza Vile?