to tell an elderly gent to f*ck off

[Helenfellows33]

i was on a family day out on a steam train and on the way home an infirm old man got on with his carer. she left shortly after and he was on his own in his wheelchair with me and my dh and dc's. this journey was about an hour long and ds being cranky started to cry. and the old man turned to him and shouted at him to be quiet boy. at this i told him to shut the fuck up and a list of words i cant mention here. dh backed me up although i was telling a friend later she said he was ok too this as he was old, we are now not speaking cause of this. AIBU for doing that to an elderly person.

You have repeatedly changed your moind about what was said and will not clarify when questioned. says it all really.

No, true - why would you lie? You couldn't go any further down in our estimation, could you?

The old man shouted "Be quiet, boy".

To which the OP said "Why don't you shut the fuck up, you old git". Her very brave and manly DH backed her up. There is also a list of words which are even more unacceptable, even for MN.

Which, quite frankly, both baffles and horrified me in equal quantities.

*mind

Why won't you answer the questions? I made it all very straightforward

Maybe next time you are angered, take some deep breathes and count to ten in your head.

I am trying to imagine someone shouting at my ds when he was two, I would be shocked, that is for sure. Probably would have said "Don't shout at my son, he is only two years old".

So what did the man say?

Yes, you were very unreasonable.

It matters not the gender, the age, the mental capacity, the tone, the words.

You reacted unreasonably in front of your child. Who will now think it's ok to use such language. Nice.

and the threat?

OP you are coming very close to ruining my day now

She's legged it by the look of it.

Just so I don't have to go and bleach the bathroom can you tell us what your handsome swain said to back you up?

if the man had asked normally and not shouted in a threatening manner i would not have said what i did.

its was his tone rather than what he said. if he had said can you try and keep your child quiet, i would not have sworn at him.

ds was being comforted what more could we do?

'Old git'

I need to put some laundry out and sort out my re-cycling but this is far more gripping

What a vulgar guttersnipe you sound OP.

YABVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVU

It's never OK to:

1. Launch a tirade of abuse at someone
2. Shout at someone
3. Swear at someone
4. Swear in front of your children
5. Gang up on someone 2:1
6. Behave aggressively

The fact that you think it's OK to do this to a vulnerable person, who couldn't move away from you says that you are an absolutely abominable person who shouldn't be allowed out in public unless gagged.

You have set the worse possible example to your children. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Guttersnipe- and that is my word of the day!

You have no idea what sort of issues the man may have had and he was in a wheelchair.

YABVU to have verbally abused a vulnerable old man

ahhhhh, we're coming close....you perceived it as a threatening manner, rather than being an actual real threat.

And do you think you telling him to fuck off might have been perceived by him in an equally threatening manner?

What did your husband say?

I've got decorating to do but this is more fun interesting.

So it was his fault you were as vile as you were, you are taking no responsibility for your behaviour? I think whatever he said you would have reacted that way.