to tell an elderly gent to f*ck off

[Helenfellows33]

i was on a family day out on a steam train and on the way home an infirm old man got on with his carer. she left shortly after and he was on his own in his wheelchair with me and my dh and dc's. this journey was about an hour long and ds being cranky started to cry. and the old man turned to him and shouted at him to be quiet boy. at this i told him to shut the fuck up and a list of words i cant mention here. dh backed me up although i was telling a friend later she said he was ok too this as he was old, we are now not speaking cause of this. AIBU for doing that to an elderly person.

Ha ha ha at there being a list of words you cant say on MN

Please tell us! I am running out of new swears..

OP why did you tell us you said a list of things you couldn't repeat on MN? why did you lie?

Poop. Monkey Butt.

OP - if the "mental issues" was directed at my explanation of my father, it really just shows how ignorant you are. He has no mental health issues in the sense that he is not a competent adult, but he will be angry about things that would not previously have bothered him.

Happily in a tolerant world, this is not generally a problem.

I AM WAITING TO HEAR WHAT THE THREAT WAS.

Because I think you're lying about that as well.

Come on come on.

I was brought up to respect my elders and I bring my children up to do the same.YAB veryU

Are you actually saying a wheelchair bound oap told your ds to be quiet and you thought the acceptable and porportionate response was to swear at him?

Really, in front of your own children, in a carriage with other familes?!

Do you see how stupid and unitelligent you must have appeared?

Nice example to set your children...good job op.

there was plenty of room for the carer to sit by him. i wasn't hogging all the seats either.

again i didnt shout either i said it to him firmly.

AIBU to fancy the other Jeremy a bit?

Sorry to go off topic but the OP doesn't listen anyway :)

So an old man shouting made your DS very upset- but not you and his father yelling abuse and swearing at a stranger? Interesting. Seems to suggest that your son is used to you telling people to fuck off.

The bad sentance doesn't, your childish behaviour and self justification does.

Your child is young and has a limited ability to deal with tiredness and over-excitment so when he started crying and grizzling with no attempt to control himself or consideration for how much it would annoy everyone else most people there had enough empathy to understand that it was because he is a child and be patient. You were not unreasonable to expected this level of consideration from healthy adults.

The man in the wheelchair was old and frail and possibly had mental issues that come with age so possibly had a limited ability to deal with a crying child. It was rude and horrid of him but anyone with any empathy (the same empathy you expected of everyone in response to your noisy child) would edit their response accordingly.

You didn't. You were very wrong.

Maybe the carer was at fault in bringing him on the train on a day when there were children about, but maybe he was having a bad, pain filled day and once they'd paid for the tickets it seemed silly to go all the way home again.

But wait, maybe you were at fault in taking your son on the train when he was getting fractious, but maybe that would have been silly if you'd already paid for the tickets.

See! consideration goes both ways.

I would hope that your mother would be thoroughly ashamed of you OP. and your delightful little outburst wouldn't have helped you DC one little bit, just frightened him more.

Well, it would frighten him more if he's not seen you or your DH behave like that. Sadly, I think it's highly unlikely it's a one off incident from what you've also said.

So I shall add in the word 'abusive'.

But he didn't need a carer to sit with him, he needed the carer to help him on and off the train. Maybe the carer was respecting his need for privacy.

So what actually happened was that the OP told him to fuck off and called him an old git, but was then so pleased with herself that she got carried away and came on MN to brag, and exaggerated what she said. Noone said 'good on you' so she decided to lose the 'list of words' that MN wouldn't like.

catgirl- no, it's that delicious grumpyness isn't it? I'd do him.

Ahem.

Will someone else please ask the OP what this so-called threat was because she is ignoring me.

Whether you shouted it or not is immaterial, OP

Please will you address the following valid questions:

1. What were you expecting when you started this thread? Are you quite surprised by the reaction you've had?

1. What did the man say? Did he really 'threaten' your DS or were you just using the word 'threat' as a figure of speech?

1. Was there really a list of unmentionables other than the 'old git' comment?

TIA.

:) YY - He's just so cross Bucharest ;)

OP - Please could you explain what the old man in the wheelchair said or did that was a threat your family?

Many thanks

Yabu to have used foul language and stooped down to the mans level. Do you lack intelligence that the only way is to swear and shout, especially in front of your ds

Agree with Kungfypanda here.

Sorry OP. Nil points. I'm not going to side with someone who shouts and swears, for whatever reason, especially in front of thier child. No-one speaks to your family like that? Keep going and at this rate no-one will speak to your family at all.

belive what you want to. im not lying why would i?

OP - for the love of god, please answer the questions?

But you haven't told us so we don't know!