AIBU to stop buyng The Independant because of this ad?

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The one from Fathers4Justice, where they accuse MN of:

"carrying abusive and distressing anti-male content which promotes gender hatred against men and boys"
and, apparently, labels "men and boys as rapist, peados and wife beaters."

The ad has a lovely picture of a sad little boy with words like "rioter" and "homeless" and "sperm bank" written on his skin.

I am confused, as I have never come across a thread on here where people routinely call men paedophiles and rapists. In fact, usually, if someone implies that a man being left alone with a child is dodgy, posters will pile in and say "God, don't you know not all men are paedos.?"

As I understand it, this is a forum for discussion, not a political movement with a manifesto. There are many and varied opinions on MN, and the minute one opinion is aired, another will be along to refute it.

Or should I just laugh at F4J? The ad is quite gruesomely funny.

droves. You didn't accuse anyone of DV did you? Nor did anyone else. Which is what I was saying noone did!

Right I'm off to M&S to buy Dh something nice for dinner later .

I went yesterday...bought the £15 meal deal, got large roast potatoes, large trifle, bottle of red and £13.78 worth of beef!!!

"droves Sat 17-Mar-12 11:30:48

I think how she left you is a bit odd. Just packed ds things and went. Only people I've known to do that are dv victims."

Does this clear it up?

Absolute disgrace Droves

If you think anyone has said something out of order slowestwildebeast do report them.

I'm just fine with that ...as long as I'm not child abandoning .

As for jumping on a plane.... I am Australian.... so why wouldn't I go back home?

Especially when I hate this place... and was only living here for my son and exDW.. even though the plan was to move back to Australia anyhow.

As for contact centre, I think that is what someone assumed somewhere in here, and that was not the case... don't know how many times I have to say, there was no contact centre... and well as for the exFIL, he was very two faced. You could tell that he was getting it all barrels from his wife and daughter, and he was always put up as the go between, whether he liked it or not. If he didn't I suspect that he would have never heard the end of it... A difficult place for him to be, and do feel sorry for him, having to be involved in it in the first place.

You can call me a child abandoning prick if you want... it isn't want I want... so who is going to loan me money to fight it? I have exhausted absolutely everything, and have nothing left.

Not dv ...no I said it was odd how aus ex just packed up his sons stuff and left , and that the only people I know who have done that are dv victims.

I suppose it was misread.

Aus. If you go your son loses his father.

for a person with an IQ of over 130 perhaps you should be more careful with how something is read?

no I said it was odd how aus ex just packed up his sons stuff and left , and that the only people I know who have done that are dv victims.

I don't know how that could be read any other way to be honest... So basically what you are assuming is that she packed up because she was being dv'ed? I can assure you that was not the case...

I'm just drawn back in.....

Aus you would have the money to fight for your son if you stopped giving your ex everything . How many times must you be told ..pay your maintence for you son ....that's all you should . If your exposes her house , then too bad.

Yes I have called you child abandoning . Yes you would be . Regardless of your country of origin ...I don't really care if your Australian or Martian tbh ...you

Aus. If you go your son loses his father.

I know that.... but he hasn't lost his father forever.... I will always be there and will keep in contact... I somehow suspect it won't be passed on, but I am never going to forget him, and I will be keeping in contact with him... As he is 2, he can't do things for himself, nor understand what is going on.

That meal deal sounds great posie.

Contact centre.... come on, now. Think about when your son is old enough to know you and know of your absence. He'll ask you why you didn't stick around, why you went thousands of miles away from him when you could have seen him every week.

What will you say? What do you think will make it okay for him?

thanks.

Aus you would have the money to fight for your son if you stopped giving your ex everything . How many times must you be told ..pay your maintence for you son ....that's all you should . If your exposes her house , then too bad.

Well it is all coming to a crunch now really, as credit cards maxed out, everything is outgoing, and well can't afford anything now..

I don't understand the IQ comment. I can't remember anyone saying on the thread about their IQ. What have I missed?

Ok, so there wasn't access at a contact centre - but you were offered this and you didn't choose to take it?

If you were as desperate to see your son as you say you are, why wouldn't you see him at a contact centre if the option was there?

I flat out do not understand why you are not seeing your son at the contact centre.

He is 2, he will not understand the context, he will not therefore think it is anything distressing, he will just go on a trip out and get to see his dad.

I don't understand why seeing your son at a contact centre would distress him?

Slowest ....are you blaming me for how you perceive a post ?

Seriously ? . I am not responsible for how you read things .

What has my iq got to do with this ? (hehehe am amused , and flattered you looked at my profile)

Perhaps I should have put on my aq score of 42 as well ? .

I'm quite literal .

Aus you said there was no dv .

What will you say? What do you think will make it okay for him?

I don't know why this seems to be hard to understand... The contact gets withdrawn.. and the courts do nothing... and then it starts up again, and then stops...

It is something, that it is going to be difficult... and all I can say is, here son, here is all the court documents and letters from your mother's solicitor doing everything she can to stop you from seeing me. It is pretty extensive to be honest... where I have tried to get something in place, then get told no.

When my son is old enough to wonder where his dad is, I will be involved in his life. But because he isn't old enough now, he can't make that decision. I will always be there for him, and keep in contact...

Aus you said there was no dv .

There was no DV!!!!

I might leave this now, my head hurts! Where was a contact centre ever suggested by OP? Where did he clearly become someone who commits dv?

Too many wind-up merchants high fiving and sniggering for this to be taken seriously. :(

But you could see him at the contact centre, couldn't you.

And if there was trouble, or your ex didn't show, or whatever, there would be official records of it.

I don't understand your attitude.