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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

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NicholasTeakozy · 15/03/2012 19:21

Stranded you caah, you've made me spit beer over me monitor! :o:o:o

BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 19:22

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Jux · 15/03/2012 19:25

Mummie dear, are you a friend of Typecast's? Is that what all this was about, this thread and the no swearing one?

Are you trying to dredge up some evidence of how horrible MN is because you're, oh trying to set up a rival forum, or have had an argument with Justine, or perhaps you're just one of those not-very-good-journos who come here from time to time in search of a story?

Why haven't you responded to all the evidence which people have linked to for you of how supportive, kind, funny MN is? Surely not because it doesn't suit your mindset to see it?

pumpkinsweetie · 15/03/2012 19:27

U have to be aware of trolls on sites like these. Accept there will be bullies everywhere and the more u get annoyed with them the more thrills they get.Trolling is what is says in the word-saddos that hide behind a computer screen all day so that they can mess with ye head. Ignore and report is the bestest way and that way no fun for themGrin

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 15/03/2012 19:28

Stranded you are a true artist.

Seriously impressed.

Now do FUCK

please Smile

ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 15/03/2012 19:29

StrandedBear - she doesn't need to get a grip Hmm

She just needs to Fuck Off and stop being such a bloody irritant.

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:29

Peppermint, come back, I only just got here, please don't say I missed the cake! :)

Angiefernackerpan · 15/03/2012 19:30

I'm new here, so have no idea what went on. However, I did just google Dragon Butter (despite the warnings) so I've learned something today. Now I'm off to wash my eyes and bleach my brain.

StrandedBear · 15/03/2012 19:35

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Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 19:35

Angie Angie Angie offers Wine
Let that be a lesson to you and NEVER google anything like that again Grin

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:36

angie I think you need Wine and a little sit down, now whatever you do, don't Google monkey face! Grin

WilsonFrickett · 15/03/2012 19:37

I sooooo wasn't going to join in this thread but stranded - we are not worthy of your talents Grin

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:37

Loving your work stranded! Grin

BeerTricksPott3r · 15/03/2012 19:37

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Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:40

What a lovely thought, a nob that smells of flowers!

Fuzzywood · 15/03/2012 19:41

Looks like you've been practising Stranded, loving your work.

RoxyRobin · 15/03/2012 19:42

It's exactly the same size as DH's!!

TheOneWithTheHair · 15/03/2012 19:42

See I also googled monkey face. I thought it was a bit Confused

I can't help it. I have to google it all. I even now have a recognisable new phobia sparked by something I clicked on here. It actually affects my life on a daily basis! Hmm

Angiefernackerpan · 15/03/2012 19:43

I was sweet and innocent until I saw this thread. Shock

I'll stick to my knitting, but not until I google monkey face... On wikipedia or another site that has no pictures. I mean, how bad can it be?!

Calamityboo · 15/03/2012 19:43

Aah, roxy, I am so sorry for you! Grin

Angiefernackerpan · 15/03/2012 19:43

Oh dear god.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 19:44

I only found out what beef curtains were last night.
I feel so ashamed - can you imagine?
Then dh tried to convince me that furry donuts were references to minges too.
But I thought they might have been furry bottoms.

Can you do a furry bottom stranded?

RhinosDontEatPancakes · 15/03/2012 19:44

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undercoverPrincess · 15/03/2012 19:46

I do agree with OP but then wonder if that isn't what people come on here for.... There is a bit too much false niceness and bullshit on most of the other forums, being able to speak your actual opinion on here is refreshing. I do so fully expecting to get shot down on occasions but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, aren't they?

RoxyRobin · 15/03/2012 19:46

Don't be - he says it's not the size that counts and he would never lie to me!