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when I post about trying to bring an end to bullying on Mumsnet? Read this post and see for yourselves that I am not the only one.

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Mummle · 15/03/2012 14:56

Who?s brave enough to take on Mumsnet?
Posted on July 28, 2011
Picture this. A new kid at school enters the playground on her first day. ?TA-DA!? she shouts to a group of children playing together. ?I?M FINALLY HERE after much moaning by my parents and a lost school application, the school board have fast-tracked my application and I?m now officially a pupil here. What have I let myself in for??

The child continues, ?Some of you may already know me, in which case ?Hi?. Some of you may never have heard of me, in which case ?Hi? ? where the heck have you been for the past two years??

One of the children in the group sneers, ?I have no idea who you are. Sorry,? and turns away. ?Well it?s nice to meet you!? offers the new kid.

?Look, I?ve been here longer than you,? says the sneering child, ?and your entrance has got my back up.? Before long, more children get involved, slagging off the new kid, telling her that she?s broken the school?s ?unwritten rules? and even calling her a c*.

The scary thing is that while this scenario happened, just this week, it didn?t happen in a school playground. It took place on parenting forum Mumsnet. The ?new kid? was a mum who?d just joined the Mumsnet Bloggers Network, and while her original post on the forum was arguably ill-judged, the reaction from other forum users was gobsmacking.

Much has been written in the past about the nastiness lurking in the Mumsnet forums, yet it seems to be brushed under the carpet and generally accepted as ?one of those things?. The users of the forum adhere to the bizarre ?I can be as nasty and vicious as I like, as long as I?m being honest and say it to the person?s face? mentality. It?s an attitude that took flight during the ten seasons of reality TV show Big Brother, with housemates gaining a strange kudos for being nasty (but honest).

The Mumsnet forum users also regularly refer to the rival ?insipid? parenting forums (for insipid, read supportive and friendly) and tell people that if they can?t handle Mumsnet, to clear off elsewhere. Conjures up images of a school gang telling a fellow pupil that if they don?t like the name-calling, to leave that school and find another, doesn?t it?

The word ?bullying? is bandied about a lot these days. Often to the point that it devalues its meaning ? very frustrating for real victims of real bullying. But having dipped in and out of Mumsnet a few times in the last couple of years, I genuinely think the word applies to some of the goings-on there. It begs the question: how on earth are we supposed to stamp out the serious bullying problem we have in schools, if parents are behaving like this? Admittedly, they?re doing it while hiding behind the anonymity of an online forum, but they?re still typing those words, saying those vile things, making other women feel like crap.

So what are Mumsnet doing about this? Well, not much it seems. Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts explained it away, in a Daily Mail article, last year, saying, ?We don?t want to sound like schoolteachers looking over our spectacles, and we don?t do it publicly. If someone has made personal attacks, we may contact them off board and it?s amazing how often they?ll say, ?I?m so sorry ? yesterday was just one of those days?. Mothers often have a lot going on in their lives and they don?t always realise how their words may come across.?

Ah, so this behaviour is acceptable if they?ve had a bad day and apologise afterwards? Well, it doesn?t wash with me, and the whole scenario is even more worrying when you look at the apparent clout that Justine Roberts and Mumsnet have with David Cameron.

I?m putting a challenge out there. We need an intervention. Someone needs to stand up to the Mumsnet bullies and deal with them like we deal with the school bullies. Who?s brave enough to do it?

OP posts:
TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:34

I like that word "grudgewank" that's my word of the week! Grin

I've shoved the spuds in. Sausages in baked spuds with cheese and beans - lovely!

Hecate I think LeBOF would like a sausage too. How many sausages can you handle LeBOF?

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:34

ME!

NarkedPuffin · 15/03/2012 17:34

I think this might be the poster who wanted us to stop swearing.

What kind of sausage?

Honeydragon · 15/03/2012 17:34

Dear MNHQ

I hope this missive finds you well.

Can you please put a stop to this repeated cuntery from the op? It is getting on my tits in a most unsatisfactory manner.

TIA

Lots of Love
Honeydragon
xx

gordyslovesheep · 15/03/2012 17:34

That is like Lembit Opik taking credit for Opal fruits - just wrong

I do not like sausages - does that mean you will Bully me?

bibbityisaporker · 15/03/2012 17:34

Oh golly, someone has linked it to facebook.

JustHecate · 15/03/2012 17:35

You are, Pag. You even had a crown, remember? Grin

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:35

I am not MN Royalty.
Never ever.
Yuk!

You still have to agree with me though. Cause I am right.

Stratters · 15/03/2012 17:36

And to add to what gordy put so beautifully, if you bang on and on about your perceived grudge with somewhere/someone, pretty soon you are going to look, sound, and smell like a troll, even if you don't think you are. But that is not for you to decide, it is MNHQ who ultimately decide who is, and isn't a troll.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:36

Everyone tell gordy what an arse she is please, we'll have none of them there veggies on this thread! Wink

Mrsjay · 15/03/2012 17:36

OP really if you feel you are being Bullied then be a grown up and deal with it , report the poster you have concerns about , switch your computer off , come off a thread , yes words can hurt and sometimes Forums can get heated , But tbh we are all grown ups , we have the power to switch off , I like Mn FWIW , yes you get language and sometimes conflict , but really just swiitch off , these words mean nothing unless you let them ,

gordyslovesheep · 15/03/2012 17:37

oh you bitchy Click

only4tonight · 15/03/2012 17:37

I hope this isn't in reference to the swearing thread as it doesn't reflect that situation at all. In that the new poster turned up said "Ta-da here I am, I am new, I don't like the way you lot speak will you change it? No? Oh I will chuck insults at you instead you thickos". That was why it turned into what it did.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:37

I'm hungry NOW.

Anyone got a microwave?

NarkedPuffin · 15/03/2012 17:38

Are you all better in the hand area now Stratters?

LadyBeagleEyes · 15/03/2012 17:38

FFS
Give it a rest OP.
Bored now.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:38
JustHecate · 15/03/2012 17:39
Shock

Shouldn't you at least buy her a coffee first?

gordyslovesheep · 15/03/2012 17:39

That better at least be organic and free range!

LeBOF · 15/03/2012 17:40

Are they Cumberland or chipolata?

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:40

Laptop is being claimed by ds so better go.
He wants to play Lego website games. And dh is sulking because I've asked for a cup of tea.
Better go and bully him.

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!

JustHecate · 15/03/2012 17:42

at "free range sausage"

I'd better log off. I'm sinking this thread so far down that we'll all end up with the bends when we try to get out of here.

TheRhubarb · 15/03/2012 17:42

Walls.

No poncey mc sausages HERE! 14% pork, 75% gristle, 11% fat. Yum!

NarkedPuffin · 15/03/2012 17:42

It looks pretty free range

nobodyspecial · 15/03/2012 17:43

Haven't read the whole thread, but OP's OP reminds me of a thread I once read in the conception board last year where a new member had posted about her infertility problems in text speak. The first two posts were helpful and then in came the spelling brigade and she was made fun out of instead of being helped/supported. I really felt sick reading that post. I wish I could find it again for proof, but it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.