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AIBU?

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To think you should be able to sue your mum if you weren't breastfed

694 replies

Richocet · 15/03/2012 08:04

and have suffered health consequences that could have been prevented by breastfeeding?

OP posts:
shagmundfreud · 17/03/2012 21:51

Sorry 'insulting people who have lost babies to SIDS?'

How?

Confused
shagmundfreud · 17/03/2012 22:09

Oh - and ledk, along with everyone on this thread I've agreed that the OP's comment about suing parents is silly and wrong.

Still not going to stand by and watch a load of bollocks be said about bf and not challenge it.

By the way, where is all the large scale research into the safety of formula, using large numbers of babies observed over a long period of time to see how they respond to the sophisticated novel ingredients now being added to baby milks? Where are the RCT's proving that ff babies don't have worse outcomes than bf babies over the short , medium and long term?

Oh hang on - they don't exist!

Breastmilk has proved itself safe and effective over millions of years. The almost wholesale switch to artificial milk for babies in just half a century has been called 'the biggest and most radical uncontrolled experiment in the history of human nutrition'...

It infuriates me that people see formula as the standard against which breastmilk needs to 'prove' its credentials.. It's not. Formula manufacturers have a responsibility to prove their product is as safe and as healthy as breastmilk and so far they've spectacularly failed to do this.

pigletmania · 17/03/2012 23:42

Shag that is never going to happen, it's impossible. Formula is there to nourish a child when BM is not available. It's a perfectly adequate substitute, but will never be the sme as breastmilk.

ledkr · 18/03/2012 08:34

shag I was referring to the thread on which you are posting and i did advise you to create your own to distance yourself from such ridiculous comments.

However you are determined to repeatedly push the "bf reduces sid" issue. On an internet forum which has its own bereavemnt section and is full of women who have been unable to or chosen not to and then lost their babies. Do you think that is appropriate? Or fair?Or kind?

Then you refer to people as ignorant or arrogant for not totally agreeing with you which is actually making you look both those things.

Just because you chose bf and are getting along with it why does that make you so scathing of others who chose not to?

Most women dont chose to ff out of ignorance or arrogance its after gving it what they consider to be their best shot and then for whatever reason switching to ff,no not quite as good but not the poison people like you want us to believe.

Most of us know the statistics we are adults and having it rammed down our throats wont change our reasons for ff.

The same as some people stil use a cot bumper,or have the room too hot,or use a cot duvet or co sleep,or put them to sleep on their fronts,or use second hand matresses etc etc the advice is guidance not to bash people on the head with should they lose a child.

You need to ask yourself why you are so bothered by what others do to nourish thier children when there are far worse things going on.

My sister is a bf counsellor and has recently had to stop feeding her ds 4 weeks after a series of difficult events,she is sad enough without having to read shit like the op.

I have listed upthread my own reasons for being unable to feed the last 2 and given other examples of reasons why women dont or cannot feed.

Therefore formula will always be around and you would even have to use it for your baby if anything stopped you feeding.

pumpkinsweetie · 18/03/2012 08:53

Totally agree with u Ledkr, happy mothers day everyone Bear

pigletmania · 18/03/2012 09:13

Some ignoramus on here comparing formula to drinking, smoking and poison Hmm, highly stupid and offensive. And guess what, for those ignoramus, those on Formula can be intelligent,healthy and bright, they don't seem to see that with their narrow vision. There is actual proof of this from real life accounts. Breastmilk is not some magical potion to prevent illness, those who have been bf can still get certain illnesses and they do, it CAN help prevent it but not 100%.

Gin30 · 18/03/2012 09:34

Well said Ledkr!

Richocet · 18/03/2012 10:56

Imagine how much more intelligent they'd be if they'd had bm piglet

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realhousewifeofdevoncounty · 18/03/2012 11:00

I smell a troll. Truly ridiculous and has to be a joke.

Astronaut79 · 18/03/2012 11:00

Is it like taking fish oil then?

Astronaut79 · 18/03/2012 11:01

Presumably I now need to feed dd all the time, even if she's not hungry, just to make sure she's super-intelligent.

Genetics and aptitude will have nothing to do with it.

realhousewifeofdevoncounty · 18/03/2012 11:06

To put another spin on it, schizophrenia has been flimsily linked to birth hypoxia and certain interventions at birth like forceps. So should all schizophrenics retrospectively sue the dr that delivered them by forceps, instead of just letting them die? We do they best we can for our dcs with the circumstances we are dealt. Life deals some horrible things to people including serious illness and disability. But I don't know of a single serious illness that is caused by formula feeding. Op is truly ridiculous and incredibly unintelligent, so I'm guessing her mum ff her.

cory · 18/03/2012 11:31

Ricochet, I see you never answered my later posts or addressed my questions as to whether a child who had been damaged by her mother insisting on breastfeeding should also be able to sue.

I did answer your post explaining about why I did not start pumping in time.

So could we have a response please?

cory · 18/03/2012 11:33

I would also need to know if dcs can sue me for passing on a genetic disorder?

Salmotrutta · 18/03/2012 11:43

"Light-hearted musing" eh?

Don't think so somehow.

Angry
Richocet · 18/03/2012 12:01

It's a question to make us think about the choices we make for our children. It all has an affect on who they grow up to be.

If we all do our best, to the best of our ability, then great, but if we don't, why, and will our children be happy with our excuses reasons for the choices we make?

For example, if you don't bf because you would rather not do the night feeds/want to drink/don't think boobs should be used for anything other than sex/etc then you should be held accountable. Obviously suing is a ridiculous suggestion, but this is AIBU, and we do like extremes here.

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Moominsarescary · 18/03/2012 12:20

Well my oldest is 17and was ff

He's never ill, is 6 foot 3 and still growing. Got As and Bs in his gcse's and got on to the college course of his choice.

He has never asked how he was fed and has shown little interest in how his brothers were fed. Ds2 ebf ds3 expressed breast feeding.

He didn't even realise ds3 was bottle fed bm until he saw me washing my breast pump. Probably because noone is interested in how a baby is fed other than it's mother.

pigletmania · 18/03/2012 13:02

So you are so narrow Ricochet to think that all people who were bf are intelligent, that does not make you then does it seem as you were not bf

pigletmania · 18/03/2012 13:03

To come up with such rubbish op is proof of that, yes the troll as a big fat smelly one

pigletmania · 18/03/2012 14:09

Feeding method has little to do with how the child grows up, there are so many psychosocial and economic factors responsible. Has the op got any firm evidence for this or is it just her musings

OriginalJamie · 18/03/2012 15:54

effect, not affect, OP.

stillorsparkling · 18/03/2012 15:59

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OriginalJamie · 18/03/2012 16:09

Right, my mum's here. She did not bf me. Nor did I bf my DSs. I'm going to instigate a right good fight accountability session right here, right now.

petitema · 18/03/2012 16:12

Shock yes sue her if she fed you on jars too. Hmm

StealthPolarBear · 18/03/2012 16:19

bloody hell op so you weren't just a post and run troll then
FWIW I'd rather be raised by a mother who didn't bf me because she found it a bit icky than one who is so short sighted and judgemental

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