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to really not identify with the feminist boards on here, when i always thought I was a feminist

952 replies

DinahMoHum · 11/03/2012 11:03

seems so joyless and anti sex.

I feel very conflicted now. I always thought feminism was about equality for women, which I dont believe we have, but it seems to re\lly be focusing on the wrong issues for me, and getting too much into dynamics of personal relationships, and peoples sexual preferences

im probably being unreasonable

OP posts:
HesterBurnitall · 11/03/2012 15:35

Catgirll, your posts read to me in tone as though you're in support of the op's basic position and antagonistic to those who try to refute or rebut it and yet your argument does not. I felt the same in the last thread I participated in on this subject, and I'm trying to understand what I'm missing here.

DoomCatsofCognitiveDissonance · 11/03/2012 15:36

People are giving genuine attacks and nasty comments about the FWR board. Instead of cutting it out and trying to post like human beings, they are carrying on attacking even when posters explain they're feeling fed up with being attacked.

Which ironically (or not), makes me want to bash my head against a brick wall.

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 15:36

Oh please pikachusmate I'm not DEMANDING or pinning (whatever that is).

I addressed a point that seemed important to you - I asked if you would be good enough to acknowledge what I said. I am not being aggressive.

So you are outraged and upset at the idea of people mildly discussing an issue that you vehemently disagree with. How Odd.

You think there is a massive issue with the FWR section because people are open minded enough to have a mild discussion about something that you don't think should be discussed. Righto Hmm

Shall I PM you the next time I want to start a thread to make sure that the subject matter is acceptable?

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 15:37

Oooh this thread has broken MN by being the zillionth feminist bashing thread - my formatting has gone all to pot too.

slug · 11/03/2012 15:37

Oh dear, another thread slagging off the straw feminist.

"Anti sex" is an insult commonly thrown at me by men whenever I challenge pornography, the sex industry or the sexualisation of girls. I'm disappointed to hear it coming from women who claim to be feminists.

HesterBurnitall · 11/03/2012 15:37

I'm sorry for messing your name up, btw, it's early hours of the morn where I live and I'm waiting for a school uniform wash to finish so I can chuck it in the dryer and I'm not picking up all autocorrect and fat fingered misspellings.

pikachusmate · 11/03/2012 15:38

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flippinada · 11/03/2012 15:39

What cam I say pikachusmate. I consider that a compliment from someone who thinks that biscuits are really vaginas in disguise :).

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 15:39

But I have clearly said I am not in support of the OPs basic position

I am genuinely trying to understand where this "tone" is coming from. Because it is not intentional and it is bewildering when you take one position and then get attacked for taking the opposite.

lesley33 · 11/03/2012 15:40

quicklookbusy - I guess though I don't see experiences on 1 thread as a reason to condemn a whole board. People could do exactly the same with aibu - actually they could do it far easier with aibu - point to 1 thread and then say as a whole the forum is unwelcoming or posters are aggressive or nutty

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 15:40

Don't apologise for that Hester :) I am usually typing whilst breast feeding so my poster are barely readable at times!

ShirleyKnot · 11/03/2012 15:40

I think DoomCats, what's supposed to happen is that the whole FWR area should just shhhh.

Shhhhhhhhhhh now, it's ok you joyless, aggressive, inflexible, hostile, anti sex, anti men bullies. Just shhhhhhhh and then say sorry for all the rude.

catgirl1976 · 11/03/2012 15:40

*posts even

prime example

pikachusmate · 11/03/2012 15:41

Here have another one then flippinada Biscuit!

lesley33 · 11/03/2012 15:41

pika - I have posted on feminism and started a thread and actually found it a more supportive forum than aibu or chat

DoomCatsofCognitiveDissonance · 11/03/2012 15:41

cat, it wasn't clear at all to start with. You did quite clearly say you thought some feminist posters were aggressive, unwilling to listen and 'bad apples', and then you denied ever saying anything rude about them. Come on, it's all on this thread.

I get that it is not fun if you don't feel you've expressed yourself well and kudos to you for admitting that, but it's not been 'clear' at all, not to me anyhow.

KatieMiddleton · 11/03/2012 15:42

Catgirl, how are you feeling about posting on the board now? They generally are a fab bunch. I dip in and out these days (RL and all that) but you are definitely welcome, even if a few folk are understandably on the defensive on this particular thread.

garlicbutter · 11/03/2012 15:42

the urge to start a thread slating the thicko stepfords who tell vulnerable women to stay with clearly VILE men, or who are suffering from the cognitive dissonance that comes with being in a horrible relationship themselves ... whilst simultaneously proclaiming themselves to be The Voices Of Common Sense.

Oh, I do sometimes Grin In AIBU usually, as it seems like the appropriate space to sound off about MY frustrations! If members aren't free to express individual thoughts or feelings, it ain't really a forum is it?

lesley33 · 11/03/2012 15:43

doom - but isn't that the same as here or chat. I really don't understand why the feminism board is highlighted

Beachcomber · 11/03/2012 15:44

I think it is because feminism is political. Period.

HesterBurnitall · 11/03/2012 15:45

Who are you speaking for, pikachusmate? There seems to be an awful lot of projection in your post. The awareness you demand is not exclusively needed by those you disagree with.

Catgirl, perhaps it's partly because you seem to tackle posters who's argument is similar rather than tackling those who continue to slate the whole board.

DoomCatsofCognitiveDissonance · 11/03/2012 15:46

lesley, personally, i don't think it's the same as AIBU/Chat and if it were, I don't see why that changes anything. If someone starts a thread to have a go at a forum within MN, it's like talking about a group of people behind their backs and it's nasty. End of. It would be just as nasty if it were any other forum being talked about.

lesley33 · 11/03/2012 15:46

Okay but people don't complain about the politics board having posters who rip apart every sentenvce. AndI have found the politics board to be much more of a bun fight than the feminism board.

HesterBurnitall · 11/03/2012 15:47

Oh, yes, formatting meltdown. Who broke the board?

QuickLookBusy · 11/03/2012 15:47

Catgirl "I find some (and by no means all) of the posters to be aggresive, unwilling to consider others viewpoints and inflexible".

Catgirl is being now picked on by several people because she posted the above.

But what she has posted is her experience, is she not allowed to discuss it??

And your rounding on her and not being willing to listen to her pov proves her origional statement.