To think that if someone elderly gets on a busy bus...

[NotaStatistic]

...they should not expect a seat?!?

I would of course give up a seat for someone elderly or less able than me but should they think they're entitled to a seat just because they're old especially if they get on bus which already has people standing?!?

Your views please

Quite, exactly what Mumsy says.

It can be difficult judging it when so many things are non visible, but you ahve to have the self acceptance to do that.

I will not offer if my asd ds3 or SN ds4 is with me, even though he looks NT he will only panic. I will if he is not.

Debs, some years ago I lived in Malta, where it was (perhaps still is) a given in a small shop that an older person had the right to jump straight to the head of a queue.

Cue lots of and among tourists and expats - us included, till we got used to the idea.

The other day I was seated on a commuter train and there was this woman standing behind me who brushed my ear a few times with her coat. After about 10 minutes of this I turned to take issue with her. At that point I noticed that she was pregnant. I of course offered her my seat.

To the seated passengers behind me it was obvious that she was pregnant yet they all chose to bury their heads in their not-so-large newspapers.

Pregnant women, parents with young children, old people. I wouldn't even need to debate the question in my mind for a second. I'm surprised that that there are people that would.

I wouldnt offer if I had my DS on my lap or was in reall pain but then I would apologise for not being able to stand so I dont seem rude.

If the bus is busy, then it's because normal younger people are going about their important daily business. They shouldn't be given a seat and they should be chucked off the bus and sent back home to watch repeats of Countdown.

Who are you NotaStatistic? The Bus Police?

Have I offended you Quenelle on this thread?!?

Thats a little bit harsh FeckArse

'normal'

Time to leave this I think!

I always go straight to the back, as far back as I can, or upstairs, or walk. Because mostly, elderly people do stuff htat pisses me off.

What constitutes normal?!? I think thats a bigger question

I do normally go to the back but you cant with a buggy.

I remember one time I was on a busy bus with my DS who was only a month old at the time, There was another buggy already on and I managed to squish past my buggy to a fold out a seat...any way i got awful comments about how I should give up my seat but I knew that I was going to stand it would be right where I was sat so I could hold my buggy.

Your quite right OP.

Then when one of the elderly nuisances gets on, when your going through the retirement village and has to stand, then falls and never walks again, not only will it be one less, or then a wheelchair passanger for you to have a go at, but they might actually put enough buses on.

Jobs done.

I was one of those annoying people who used a sling and fold-away buggy and went to the back or upstairs because the front's for people who are disabled, regardless of age.

Not what Im saying Birdsgottafly. If you read I said I would always stand, I do fold my buggy or get off the bus for a wheelchair user.
Im not having a go at them for getting on everyone needs the bus.
I hate it when they fall over but if there are no seats available because others with needs are using them yu cant expect a seat.

I don't know many people who think they are 'entitled' to a seat, but most would prefer to have one if at all possible.

And if you are ready to give up your seat to an older person what is this thread about?

Definitely older people should get priority when it comes to seats. I'm sure, in their younger days, they automatically stood up to give someone older their seat and should expect the same courtesy in turn.

What does annoy me is when someone stands up to offer an elderlypregnant person a seat, the person starts arguing 'no, no, I'm fine' and the embarassed passenger either slinks back into the seat or stays standing while the seat remains empty. If someone offers you their seat you should TAKE it and not embarass them.

Just that in my experience I find that the older generation expect to get on a bus first (regardless of queue system) and expect a seat regardless of whether that is possible for them.

Years ago I used to commute to London. Rush-hour trains had limited stops - so, about an hour from Charing Cross to the next stop. Once I got on one of those old-fashioned carriages where the compartments were sealed (i.e. no corridor, hence could not move to next compartment). All seats taken; I had to stand; fair enough. Heavily pregnant woman got on just as train about to depart, so no chance for her to move to another compartment. I asked the 8 seated men if one of them would stand to let her sit down. None of them even replied, until one eventually said she could sit on his knee if she liked. (She declined btw.)

I still think this was one of the most ill-mannered encounters I've had in my life.

Wow Princess that is pretty bad the fact he offered a knee is what i find quite shocking and slightly rude.

Normal = busy, younger, places to go people. They're only going where ever they're going to cause more trouble.
Standing in the middle of supermarket isles nattering.
Going into banks at the busiest times, with really long time consuming problems.
Walking too slowly on pavements.
Ramming shopping trolleys up peoples ankles.
They're feckers and there bus passes ought to be restricted to the hours of 11pm to midnight.

Wow I take you really dont like old people FeckArse I know they can be slow and stop randomly but they are fun to listen to and you can have lovely conversations with them.

Tongue firmly in cheek

lol Have you found that people randomly stop to look around when walking lol. Very annoying I almost ran someone over in town the other day.

FeckArse, I think the bus should pull a trailer and all those pesky elderly people could sit in that and then all the people on llegitimate business could have a seat.