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to think the tax credits system is not designed to support people that have as many children as they fancy and expect the state to pick up the tab?

350 replies

LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 21:24

An acquaintance has just announced she is pregnant with her fifth child. Her 4 children are by 2 separate fathers, and #5 is by a different father again. Her partner has a job in which he is unlikely to earn much more than the minimum wage. She doesn't work, and says they are heavily reliant on tax credits and housing benefit. Yet they are having baby #5, so effectively expecting that the tax credits system will just pick up the tab, as she has made several comments about how the tax credits will go up when #5 arrives.

Someone else I know who also says they are heavily reliant on TCs has recently had baby#3 and would like baby#4 in the near future. Again she says they can afford it as their tax credits will go up. The only working income coming into their home is that from her husband's 16 hours a week job in a shop, everything else is benefits.

What I'm trying to say is, those of us that support ourselves with no reliance on benefits have a cut off point of children that we can afford and we stop at that point. We stuck at 3 as that's all we can afford even though I would have liked one more. I feel that those that keep having child after child, totally reliant on tax credits, are abusing the system.

OP posts:
petitema · 05/03/2012 23:05

Tut personal attacks are not allowed, have you read the rules?

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:05

You haven't got a clue

wigglesrock · 05/03/2012 23:06

I work for minimum wage too and I don't feel the need to judge people I don't know. I've had to live on benefits before and it was feckin' grim.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:06

Well your taking the piss out of my name!

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:06

About the rules??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

livelaughlovevintage · 05/03/2012 23:06

I'm amazed at the level of immaturity of some of the 'mothers' on this thread.

The OP has shared her opinion about certain people basing their decision to have dc's on how much more money they will get. It's wrong, and why the benefits system is up shit creek right now.
I agree OP.

Shocked a lot of people on here disagree.
Shameless.

Pornyissue · 05/03/2012 23:06

This thread has turned nuts

Im quite enjoying it

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:06

Yes but wiggle you don't abuse it!

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:07

High kicks, exit right jazzyyyyy!!!

Honeydragon · 05/03/2012 23:07

but YOU don't pay for them.

Just as I don't pay for YOUR home.

If it bothers you that much consult a solicitor become Freeman and drop out the damned system. Taxation is never fair.

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:08

I like shameless and all that jazz.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:09

petitema I am going to have to retire to bed. Your just too much fun!

You probably are the most immature person I have come across.

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2012 23:09

Liams you don't pay for them dear

Pornyissue · 05/03/2012 23:10

If the whole of the uk quit work tomorrow where do you think benefit money would come from honey?!

I'm currently on maternity allowance and feel grateful tax payers have enabled that.

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:10

why thank you jazzyj!!!!!!!!!!! Nighty night. Don't forget to feed your goat.

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:11

Highfive porny.Smile

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:11

Say what you will but I am proud to say I work and pay my taxes. It would be a lot easier for me to just give up work and life off the state too but I have morals. I just don't see who nobody sees that.

Pornyissue · 05/03/2012 23:11

Yeah rock on

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2012 23:12

But if you and your partner are working for minimum wage, what are you claiming?

Anything at all?

You must get some kind of tax credits yes?

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:12

tcs - benefits cb benefits

Pornyissue · 05/03/2012 23:12

Liammummy I think you taken all the grief on this thread quite well

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:13

National insurance is where maternity comes from if you work you pay for it. It's people who have never bothered working I have the problem with. And yes as a whole whoever pays taxes pays for the benefits scroungers

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:13

pmsl

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:14

Exits left no right no in the middle and all tha jazz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:14

OMFG!!!!! How many fucking times!!!!!

IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO NEVER WORK I HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH!!

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