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to think the tax credits system is not designed to support people that have as many children as they fancy and expect the state to pick up the tab?

350 replies

LadyLazyLongLegs · 05/03/2012 21:24

An acquaintance has just announced she is pregnant with her fifth child. Her 4 children are by 2 separate fathers, and #5 is by a different father again. Her partner has a job in which he is unlikely to earn much more than the minimum wage. She doesn't work, and says they are heavily reliant on tax credits and housing benefit. Yet they are having baby #5, so effectively expecting that the tax credits system will just pick up the tab, as she has made several comments about how the tax credits will go up when #5 arrives.

Someone else I know who also says they are heavily reliant on TCs has recently had baby#3 and would like baby#4 in the near future. Again she says they can afford it as their tax credits will go up. The only working income coming into their home is that from her husband's 16 hours a week job in a shop, everything else is benefits.

What I'm trying to say is, those of us that support ourselves with no reliance on benefits have a cut off point of children that we can afford and we stop at that point. We stuck at 3 as that's all we can afford even though I would have liked one more. I feel that those that keep having child after child, totally reliant on tax credits, are abusing the system.

OP posts:
LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:49

want

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:50

Prehaps she will feed the kid with the goats milk? Goats are a good plan.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:51

Pha! No answer? Thought not! Wink

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:51

Six lovley grandbabies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honeydragon · 05/03/2012 22:51

Very interesting though that so many of you are so defensive. Makes it very easy to tell who is claiming the old tax credits though, eh.

ahem ^^

exceptionally rudefrom Inland Revenue website, OP, but I expect you know best

^^ Mild sarcasm

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:52

Well if you can live with that more fool you..

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:52

Can someone translate, what does pha mean? Confused

Honeydragon · 05/03/2012 22:52

sorry cut and pasted wrong exceptionally rude is applied to the first comment

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:53

(and you didn't technically answer my question)

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:53

cough changes subject cough

Honeydragon · 05/03/2012 22:54

Liam the op clearly states that one parent is working.

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:54

I'd watch that if you've just had a baby.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:55

Yes but I am on about benefit scroungers. People who choose to have children for money.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:56

No sorry I was referring to you! Smile

Honeydragon · 05/03/2012 22:57

Liam Confused who was the question addressed too?

How many people honestly do you know who have children to earn money?Confused

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2012 22:57

You've only allowed 2 mins liamsmummy.

Some of us are multitasking on several threads at once you know.

If my kids had 6 kids and didn't want to to work, what would I think.

Would I be ok with it?

Well what could I do. If as adults my boys decides to start churning out the kiddies, that's up to them.

I would cast no more judgement than I do on somebody who is not related to me and does this.

DamnBamboo · 05/03/2012 22:58

Who actually chooses to have children for money?

Does this really happen (my guess is perhaps infrequently) but do they make up a signifcant proportion of benefits claimants?

Where is the evidence for this?

petitema · 05/03/2012 22:58

I meant the coughing.

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 22:59

Iwas referring to Petitema sorry for confusion. And as I have said before you see it an awful lot where I live. Some people have absolutely no idea at all.

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:01

Dim the lights for the goat and all that jazz

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:01

Well I cast judgment!!! Me and my DP both work for minimum wage an struggle to get by and them the knobs upstairs smoke weed all fucking day and don't got work!! They've got 2 kids! Whom I fucking pay for!!

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:02

petitmathat is my actual name you dim witted eejit!

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:03

Me, me I will have another dc for money and goat, where do I sign? Will it pay for my nanny/housekeeper?

LiamsMummyJaz · 05/03/2012 23:04

Shut up

petitema · 05/03/2012 23:04

And all that jazz yeahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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