to NOT want a cleaner?

[OrkaLiely]

it seems to be very common on MN; paying another person to clean your house. Why can't the adults in the house do it between them? And once the kids are old enough to hold a duste,r teach them to help out as well.

I'd hate someone else in our house cleaning up our mess. It sends a bad message to children too. And no-one in this age of dishwashers, washing machines, vacuum cleaners is too busy to do it themselves.

Thanks for your reply to my cleaner questions breathe .

Fuck me, this is still going.

I can't be arsed to go back and read the last six pages.

Let me guess, it has become abusive hasn't it?

DamnBamboo - you missed the fight. The pro-cleaner brigade have had their cleaners wipe the floor with the anti-cleanerists.

Once again, surprise, different people have different lives to you, feel differently and have different priorities. That's all.