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Keeping savings secret from DH

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nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 22:09

We lost loads in the property crash - about 60k (all our savings and DH's inheritance from his dad), after a bad investment. We came really close to going bankrupt which would've cost DH his career. We now rent (the investment was supposed to set us up with a deposit etc).

There's five of us. Our rent is over half of DH's take-home. DS1 is moving to secondary school next year but we have to hold on until then. We live in a fairly expensive area (DH can only work in London).

I'm a sahm - we have preschool twins and can't afford childcare. Before DCs I worked for a supermarket so hardly raking it in.

DH earns a 'good' salary but it's all gone as soon as we turn round. We're not on the breadline - we have about 5k each in ISAs and about 2k in a savings account.

DH isn't exactly bad with money but he has some bad habits. He'd always rather get lunch from one of the places near work than take a packed lunch (I have put my foot down on that but he feels aggrieved because he's missing out on socialising time etc). He will pop in to the corner shop and buy stuff we don't strictly need. More importantly, getting him to take action on things (like changing to an 0% credit card or paying off his overdraft with what savings we have - we could do this), is very difficult. He doesn't like my 'nagging'. I end up sort of making him do it or making the transfers myself, which makes me frustrated and him feel dictated to.

He does a regular sport, socialises after work occasionally and is going on a ski trip with friends from work (I wasn't thrilled about that but he deserves a break), so it's not like his life is just work and stressing about money.

Anyway just to paint the picture.

I have 20k savings which DH doesn't know about. It's an inheritance from my grandma. He knew about it when I got it (10 years ago), and it didn't really get mentioned. When we were facing bankruptcy we were advised to keep our finances seperate (the money wouldn't've saved the situation). It's in my maiden name. Last year I put it in a 5 year savings account.

I wasn't thinking very clearly but my thoughts were along the lines of: I want to retrain, and the course I want to do will cost us money, and the money from gran could pay for that as the twins will be starting primary school around the time the savings account vests.

Talking about this year's tax bill and the overdraft old chestnut and DH's reluctance to empty out the 2k savings account (it's earning 3% which is less than inflation and way less than the interest on the overdraft), he said he didn't like the idea of not having any 'ready money' for emergencies. I said well, we have the ISAs and he sort of made a snorting sound.

I so nearly said 'well I have 20k in savings from my gran' - but he'd be furious I've been keeping it secret and as it's locked away for another 4 years it would be an issue for at least that long. And then he'd want input into what we did with it afterwards and while I know he SHOULD - I sort of want to hold onto it, not have it frittered away.

I strongly suspect he'd backslide on our money-saving attempts if he knew about it, I guess. I don't know for sure though.

I don't know what to do. I was all panicky when I locked it away (and angry with Dh about the bad investment), and now it feels like whatever I do is going to cause more friction.

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Carpediem2007 · 29/01/2012 22:30

When I was single and bought a tiny 2 bed room terraced house on my own, I saw a finance adviser who was forever telling me to keep a stash of money aside and even keep this house for myself if I ever got married. Fast forward 10 years, I sold this house a few years ago and put the money into our larger family home but I have kept as mall ISA separate from our joint finances (about 5K).
As a SAHM it is more difficult as you don't have any income, so even more justified to keep your own family inheritance aside. You planned it for retraining, not for a lush holiday so it will benefit your whole family at the end.

As for the way your DH is managing finances, it sounds rather selfish to me, what are you getting?

A friend of mine took extended maternity leave and explained to me that since she started her mat leave, they have been putting both incomes into the joint account and each gets an equal sum every month for some independent expenses so they can spend some money without having to justify it. They BOTh get it, not just her DH.Then she added that she was not spending hers so just put it in a saving. If you had as much allocated to you as your DH is spending, you may have quite a sum by now.

skybluepearl · 29/01/2012 22:46

the money was a gift from your gran and that makes it very special. not to be frittered away. what did she want you to do with the money? would she be happy for it to pay for your course. if you are anything like me, you will have given and given constantly over your years as a SAHM. I'm sure it's perfectly fine to reserve something for yourself.

three of my female friends have recently told me that their partners have admitted to having a big stash of cash in the bank. All three of my frineds have been pleasently surprised and happy with the discovery.

nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 22:46

Thankyou for your reply. Your FI's advice sounds good. But presumably your DH knows about your ISA etc? That's what I'm struggling with - I will have to keep lying for 4 years or fess up and probably get 4 years of it coming up every time we think about doing something spendy.

I am getting stuff. Mostly time but that's precious - DH takes a half-day every month or so so I can do my own thing and always offers to have the DCs so I can go out etc. He has also said I should learn to drive which will be a big expense. If I wanted to go skiing (or similar), he'd have accepted it and tried to sort it out.

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skybluepearl · 29/01/2012 22:47

in training you are going to be buildign a brighter future for your whole family - not just youself

nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 22:48

skyblue my gran would probably have rather I'd bought a big diamond! She was that sort of lady :) But yes she did leave it to me specially (not through my parents iyswim - they are very tight financially and there won't be anything from them).

But DH lost all his inheritance... And I did (do), lie about it, which feels like setting up problems for the future. But I don't want to come clean :( Such a mess.

Oh I hope DH is delighted when I do tell him!

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WorraLiberty · 29/01/2012 22:50

Regarding the inheritance

You say DH invested his from his Dad along with both your savings

So, if that investment had come up trumps you both would have benefited from his inheritance wouldn't you?

I don't think I'd blame him for being angry with you although I can kind of see your side of things too.

marriedinwhite · 29/01/2012 22:51

My grandmother was the sensible one in the relationship where money was concerned, my mothers was taken to the cleaners by two husbands. When DH and I got married I had capital in my own right and it paid the deposit on our family home - a very large deposit in 1994 terms. DH now earns a very high salary. I also work full-time because it gives me the freedom to spend what I want (actually not that much) without being answerable to anyone. I have always had a "stash" - always for that little expense a woman shouldn't have to account for and as my mother said - emergency money. Might be very old fashioned but there's nothing wrong with a little financial independence.

Keep your stash OP and use it well.

Pannacotta · 29/01/2012 22:51

I think its fine. I am also a SAHM and have a stash of my own. MY DH earns a good salary but I do feel like its not my money and I like the thought I have my own cash in case of emergency or if things were to go wrong between us (not that I am being pessimistic).

In fact it was my mother many years ago who told me to make sure I always had a stash of my own money...

PomBearAtTheGatesOfDoom · 29/01/2012 22:53

Having had a marriage in which I used to have to sleep with my purse in my bra to stop him stealing all the money from it to buy drink leaving me with nothing at all and two sons to feed, I don't blame you OP.
Keep your nest egg, on the day you REALLY need it, you'll know.

Flisspaps · 29/01/2012 22:56

I think you do need to come clean about this money.

Turn the tables - how would you honestly feel, if you were the one who was shite with money, to find you DH had a secret £20k savings fund, that he'd failed to mention to you? Yes, use it for training or whatever and tell him thats your priority, but on almost any thread mentioning finances on MN there are shouts of 'in a marriage money is all one pot' and 'why us his money HIS money and not yours too?'

I believe that's true - in your case yes, in name it should be separate, but nothing more. If a woman posted on here to say she found out her DH had savings of £20k squirrelled away, she'd be told to question what else he was hiding (even in circumstances like yours where there was nothing else being hidden) Sad

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 29/01/2012 22:57

Am I the only one wondering what responses would be if a woman posted on here about her husband having 20k savings and not telling her about them?

ComposHat · 29/01/2012 22:58

Your husband used his inheritance (for what he thought) to be the good of the family, so I wouldn't blame him for being cross when he finds out about this.

If you do want to do a training course, how are you going to explain where the money came from? A big win on the geegees?

Tell him now and explain what you hope to do with it. What is it you hope to retrain as? It can be easily couched as 'We'd all have a better future if I could earn x amount as a [whatever it is you are going to be training as] then we'd be able to go on holiday/clear debts faster etc.

ilovesooty · 29/01/2012 22:58

If a woman posted on here to say she found out her DH had savings of £20k squirrelled away, she'd be told to question what else he was hiding

I'm afraid I thought that as well.

EverybodysSnowyEyed · 29/01/2012 23:00

Agree with ComposHat

He was happy to pool his inheritance and if I were him I would be seriously hurt to find out you had been hiding yours

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nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 23:00

Worra that is exactly it. He used his inheritance (from his dad, which is worse in a way), and it's gone forever now so why do I get to keep mine just for me?

But also, he made the investment - not against my wishes but I wanted to be more cautious. And I KNOW that if he'd known about my money he'd've wanted to try and save the situation and it would've been lost too.

That was my justification at the time, anyway.

married yes, my own mother talks about a 'running-away fund'. We're happy but I do feel the lack of financial independance. And I want the money to benefit me as a mother/woman/individual.

Pannacotta does your DH know about your stash?

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mojitomania · 29/01/2012 23:01

I'd say good for you OP.. He aint very viable is he. You probably knew what he was like from get go. It unfolded and guess what!

Don't tell him and get out really.

mayorquimby · 29/01/2012 23:02

"the money was a gift from your gran and that makes it very special. not to be frittered away. "

And presumably the op took the same attitude towards her husbands inheritance from his father, would have been happy for him to have kept it a secret, retained all decision making over how this money would be used and never saw a penny of benefit from that inheritance herself.

Don't threads where people talk about split finances/a husband keeping his earnings to himself normally end up in a barrage of "tell him it shouldn't be a case of your money and my money, it should be our money."

nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 23:03

hang on catching up....

YES exactly about what else a man would be hiding. Though I do think if it was a SAHD in this situation (rather than a wage-earning H squirrelling away), it would be different - but maybe not this different.

I wish DH knew about it. because then I wouldn't feel like such a shit about it. But now I have two shit choices - own up (hurt his feelings, he'll probably say it's my fault we lost the 60k though that is NOT TRUE), or keep lying and come clean in 5 years.

Both shit options.

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mayorquimby · 29/01/2012 23:03

x-post. it would appear he did use his own money all for himself. dickhead.

Mya2403 · 29/01/2012 23:03

OP it is your money, He doesn't need to know. I have an inheritance from My Grandparents dh knows but he doesn't know how much it is and has never asked it is a very high amount.

I also have an ISA which my husband puts £250 a week in just for me to spend on me.

I save atleast £50 a week, It's good to have savings.

SparkleSoiree · 29/01/2012 23:04

Hex I was just thinking the same thing...

nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 23:16

my main worry is that I would be persuaded out of retraining.

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BlueFergie · 29/01/2012 23:18

Sorry but YABU you should tell your husband about his money. I would be furious if DH kept something like that from me. You don't have to agree to the way he wants to spend it you know?

ComposHat · 29/01/2012 23:21

What is it you want to retrain as?