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Keeping savings secret from DH

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nervousaboutcash · 29/01/2012 22:09

We lost loads in the property crash - about 60k (all our savings and DH's inheritance from his dad), after a bad investment. We came really close to going bankrupt which would've cost DH his career. We now rent (the investment was supposed to set us up with a deposit etc).

There's five of us. Our rent is over half of DH's take-home. DS1 is moving to secondary school next year but we have to hold on until then. We live in a fairly expensive area (DH can only work in London).

I'm a sahm - we have preschool twins and can't afford childcare. Before DCs I worked for a supermarket so hardly raking it in.

DH earns a 'good' salary but it's all gone as soon as we turn round. We're not on the breadline - we have about 5k each in ISAs and about 2k in a savings account.

DH isn't exactly bad with money but he has some bad habits. He'd always rather get lunch from one of the places near work than take a packed lunch (I have put my foot down on that but he feels aggrieved because he's missing out on socialising time etc). He will pop in to the corner shop and buy stuff we don't strictly need. More importantly, getting him to take action on things (like changing to an 0% credit card or paying off his overdraft with what savings we have - we could do this), is very difficult. He doesn't like my 'nagging'. I end up sort of making him do it or making the transfers myself, which makes me frustrated and him feel dictated to.

He does a regular sport, socialises after work occasionally and is going on a ski trip with friends from work (I wasn't thrilled about that but he deserves a break), so it's not like his life is just work and stressing about money.

Anyway just to paint the picture.

I have 20k savings which DH doesn't know about. It's an inheritance from my grandma. He knew about it when I got it (10 years ago), and it didn't really get mentioned. When we were facing bankruptcy we were advised to keep our finances seperate (the money wouldn't've saved the situation). It's in my maiden name. Last year I put it in a 5 year savings account.

I wasn't thinking very clearly but my thoughts were along the lines of: I want to retrain, and the course I want to do will cost us money, and the money from gran could pay for that as the twins will be starting primary school around the time the savings account vests.

Talking about this year's tax bill and the overdraft old chestnut and DH's reluctance to empty out the 2k savings account (it's earning 3% which is less than inflation and way less than the interest on the overdraft), he said he didn't like the idea of not having any 'ready money' for emergencies. I said well, we have the ISAs and he sort of made a snorting sound.

I so nearly said 'well I have 20k in savings from my gran' - but he'd be furious I've been keeping it secret and as it's locked away for another 4 years it would be an issue for at least that long. And then he'd want input into what we did with it afterwards and while I know he SHOULD - I sort of want to hold onto it, not have it frittered away.

I strongly suspect he'd backslide on our money-saving attempts if he knew about it, I guess. I don't know for sure though.

I don't know what to do. I was all panicky when I locked it away (and angry with Dh about the bad investment), and now it feels like whatever I do is going to cause more friction.

OP posts:
Kayano · 30/01/2012 10:37

Also agree with Nesbo

destroyedluggage · 30/01/2012 10:40

Well, I do see a difference between money I earn myself (or money I enable my husband to earn by taking on a bigger share of unpaid household work and childcare), and money from an inheritance. An inheritance is somebody else's life's work, not mine or my partner's. I'd respect it, and I'd expect my husband to respect it too. Which doesn't necessarily mean I wouldn't share it.

chipmunksex · 30/01/2012 10:40

It appears to me that the OP has made a sound decision and should not be beating herself up about it. She made that decision based on her knowledge of ther dh's personality and their plans for the future; seems reasonable to me.

giveyourselfashiny · 30/01/2012 10:41

so you were happy to share his money but not your own? nice.

NinkyNonker · 30/01/2012 10:47

Not at all Destroyed, people are just saying that the lying is wrong. By all means keep the money for training, but the stashing it seems wrong to me.

chipmunksex · 30/01/2012 10:50

Having an open sharing, joint decisions on everything set up is fine for some people, for instance if they have very similar ideas about money.

But if husband and wife do not have similar ideas, then it can be better and save arguments to keep at least some things seperately.

lurkingaround · 30/01/2012 10:56

I also agree OP has made a sound decision.

While I can see she's not being totally honest with her DP, OP is sahm, and if you like, this is her income. Is it so bad to say nothing about this money? She's not going to fritter it away on smthng silly. It will be incredibly useful some day, they're managing now, so today is not the day to use this money.

Is there anyone here who doesn't have a little secret kept from their DP? (That's a whole 'nother thread I suppose).

sausagesandmarmelade · 30/01/2012 10:59

OP is sahm, and if you like, this is her income

oh right...so his income is her income and her income is her income?!

Hmm
Hullygully · 30/01/2012 11:00

It entirely depends on your marriage.

giveyourselfashiny · 30/01/2012 11:00

While I can see she's not being totally honest with her DP, OP is sahm, and if you like, this is her income

but his income is shared with her isnt it?

i am a sahm, my dh has about 5 grand in an account i have nothin to do with, i have 100 pr month go into an account he cant touch. difference being if we needed it both of us would turn it over and both of us know that the other has this money.

alittlesurprise · 30/01/2012 11:09

In my own family situation we share everything and have a similar outlook on money, so there is no need to hide anything from each other.

However, if I had a husband that would fritter the money away (or mentally think 'Oh DW has 20K in the bank, I'll be able to spend that on a credit card and she can pay it off'...or worse), then maybe I would keep it secret for the meantime for the good of the family finances.

Go with your gut instinct. I think all families have different dynamics/ attitudes when it comes to cash, so what suits one may not suit another.

Nesbo · 30/01/2012 11:25

I can't see how it can be healthy to hide things rather than talk and negotiate as equals. Resolving differences in attitudes is something you have to deal with in a partnership, and the fact you are able to do this helps cement that bond between you.

If your answer is to hide things instead there is an underlying problem there (in my opinion anyway).

sausagesandmarmelade · 30/01/2012 11:56

There is definitely an underlying problem in the marriage...which is being compounded by the secrecy and lack of willingness of the OP to discuss/share what she has been given....and to be open about it.

lurkingaround · 30/01/2012 11:58

I probably phrased 'her income is this' badly.
Do you not think that different partners have different strengths? Money is not her partner's strength. OP is not hiding stuff, she's just, well, keeping it safe. I don't think any of us has exactly the same attitudes/values/strengths etc as our partners. Nowt wrong with that. That's where partnership comes in, and as adults we can compensate for each other's weaknesses. Reading the OP post again, I think she's being very prudent and has this situation well thought out. Her gran's money is precious. It seems her actions are keeping her DP's mind focused. These are tough times.

I think it's not ideal that this money is "quiet", but i have to say if my DH was a bit of a "fritterer", I would keep quiet.

Like alittlesurprise said, go with your instincts. They rarely fail you.

gramercy · 30/01/2012 12:14

I understand the OP totally... in fact the more I read (particularly about the expensive lunches) I thought it was me !

What some people on this thread are not getting is the fact of having a spendthrift, or at least an easy come, easy go, partner. They're not a bad, "leave the bastard!" person, just useless with money.

If my dh sees £1,000 in the current account, he'll think "Whoopeee!" and hot foot it down to PC World/World of Hi Fi/World of Anything with the money burning a hole in his pocket. He can't get it into his thick skull that there are such things as bills that haven't yet been paid. Like the OP's dh, poor investments robbed us of all the money I inherited from my mother.

Anyway - any spare money I salt away. I'm not going to run off. I'm not going to spend it on a facelift (although that might be a good idea...). I just know that for the greater good of the family and our future it is best that dh is blissfully ignorant of any savings we have.

Nesbo · 30/01/2012 12:27

Ultimately if the money is in your account and you really cant agree on what to do with it then you get the deciding vote (as they can't force you to hand it over).

I would feel i was being disrespectful to my wife though if I had so little faith in her (or my ability to convince her what was best for us both) that I kept such a large sum hidden from her. It would be treating her like a child - "there there dear, I'm good with money and your not so don't you worry your pretty little head about it". Urgh!

Everyone's relationship dynamic is different though I guess but when you hide important stuff from a partner you are saying they are less than your equal.

lurkingaround · 30/01/2012 12:31

Love your post. gramecy. Exactly what i was hamfistedly trying to say.

lurkingaround · 30/01/2012 12:36

I don't think OP is being patronising. OP isn't treating her DH like a child. Money management is not his strength. So say she 'lets loose' her money, and as she predicts, DH spends a large portion of it and they're stuck for school fees or whatever, what would you call it then?

chipmunksex · 30/01/2012 12:40

Some really good posts, lurking and gramecy.

Nesbo · 30/01/2012 12:41

Why would he be let loose on it if they discuss it and agree what to do with it (and she can always leave it in her account).

I think it reminds me of what people say when someone has an affair but doesn't want to own up - not telling your partner creates a power imbalance and denies them a chance to make important decisions (or even just offer opinions) because you are unilaterally deciding they shouldn't have all the facts.

gramercy · 30/01/2012 12:48

Smile thanks, Lurking and Chipmunk! Lurking - thought your post good too - yes, we all have different strengths. A marriage is not necessarily doomed because the couple aren't 100% compatible in every way. In fact, I have observed a higher split-up rate amongst those couples who maintained "we never argue" "we share everything ". Hmmmm.

sausagesandmarmelade · 30/01/2012 12:58

Apologies Nesbo I somehow assumed you were a woman....not that it makes any difference at all.

I think OP is treating him like another of the children....and unjustly so.

Ok...he might treat himself to a trip with his colleagues...but OP has agreed to this..so why not.

He has access to a 5k ISA...which presumably he hasn't touched...so what makes OP think he shouldn't know about the 20k? Seriously...what reason is there to hide it from him...or not discuss what should be done with it.

I think OP is being selfish and controlling.

sunshineandbooks · 30/01/2012 13:00

I think you should tell him but insist on keeping control of it yourself for all the reasons you've given here. You are clearly much better at financial management than your DH.

Unless your DH is paying for your pension out of his earnings, and putting money aside for you to compensate for your loss of earnings while your career is on hold as a SAHM, then IMO you have the right to earmark some money for yourself as a form of protection.

sausagesandmarmelade · 30/01/2012 13:00

and he has agreed not to buy his lunches...he hasn't just gone out and continued to spend the money regardless.

He's being painted in a very bad light....

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