to think this mum is a bit bonkers!!

[Dartfordmummy]

Don't know if there is already a thread on this but am a bit about this story!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089474/Its-boy-Couple-brought-child-gender-neutral-reveal-sex-The-Infant--keeping-secret-FIVE-YEARS.html

Poor Sasha

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089474/Its-boy-Couple-brought-child-gender-neutral-reveal-sex-The-Infant--keeping-secret-FIVE-YEARS.html

Barking mad.. and that child quite clearly looks like a boy in any case.

Sorry, but that is warped behaviour and using your child for you own bizarre social experiment is tantamount to emotional abuse.

I would say that the mother really wanted a girl.

I don't think that we should use our children to experiment and it was sad that it isolated him, with no one wanting to befriend the oddball mother.

I would say that the mother really wanted a girl.

I don't think that we should use our children to experiment and it was sad that it isolated him, with no one wanting to befriend the oddball mother.

The live in the same village as my in laws

Sorry-went twice.
I intended to say that the adult relationship with mother and son will be interesting. I predict that it won't be good.

So what was the village consensus, Norfolk?

i had a read of that and I think it's v interesting that although they wanted the child raised gender neutral.. they seem to have pushed him to let go of any 'traditional' masculine notions and pushed the female notions - dolls, dresses, flowery things... rather than allowing him to be neutral./find his own way

using a child for a bizarre social experiment is not very nice IMO

it isolated him and the first few years are so important in learning about social interaction and so on and she's essentially brought him up in a bubble

That woman is barking mad and that poor little boy will end up in therapy for years

YABU for reading this DM rubbish.

Are dolls and frilly blouses "gender neutral"

Clearly she is as mad as a box of frogs.

so dressing him as a fairy for the christmas, not letting him run around naked, never having other parents over for coffee and encouraging him to play with dolls is gender neutral and good for the child??

she sounds more crazy than me

I don't get how she reconciles 'gender neutral toys' with pink skirts and fairy costumes.

Not that I have a problem with boys dressing up however they want, pushing your boy towards girls toys, and not giving him boys toys (again, not that there should really be such a thing) isn't neutral - it's just as biased as the other way round.

If they are so concerned about neutrality then why is he always pictured wearing girl's clothes?

You are right exoticfruit, looks like she wanted a girl!

Wrong to experiment on your own child in my opinion. They have tried to use the child to demonstrate what they think about gender stereotyping.

thats what I was trying to say chunkypickle, you said it much better

Total box of frogs level of madness.

poor chil

*child

I have seen this family before - he wore plenty of boys' clothes too. The charming DM just chose to paint a particular picturefor once

I do not agree with this couple, but the DM seem to have made them out to be crazier than they are.

I thought they had let tge child choose tge clothes?

I don't think she's done him any harm. Now he's 5 and old enough to tell everyone he's a boy, she's not trying to keep it a secret.

I think people are very sensitive over gender.

My mother told me my 2yo DD would grow up gender confused because she wore her 4yo brothers hand-down PJs. Funnily enough, she's very aware she's a girl (even though DS2 told her she was born a boy, but we chopped her willy off after she was born )

My older sisters tried to be gender neutral with thier DC ( not to an extreme extent, all my DN have names which clearly state which gender they are), and took great delight in giving my DS fairly wings for christmas, etc. I couldn't care less if he wore fairy wings, but DS1 was only interested in brumming cars around the floor.

I think if a girl was dressed in dungarees every day, and given a short haircut it wouldn''t make the papers.

Damn, just started a thread on this, oops

Maybe I'm too simple to understand this, but why the need for secrecy of gender? WHy not just let him play with whatever he wants to play with? My ds loves hurtling around in dd's old tutus and dressing up shoes, as much as he loves building his train tracks. Where's the problem with just doing that?

I think if a girl was dressed in dungarees every day, and given a short haircut it wouldn''t make the papers.

Well no. Because it's hardly the same thing. This would have exactly the same impact if the child had turned out to be a girl

They look like a family who just want to be the centre of attention to me.