To think that the West is seriously fucked up on the bosom front?

[Hullygully]

Bags of poison sewn into our infant feeding parts.

How fucked up is that?

cassette, you are clearly bent on pursuing your own agenda and seeing spite and sneering no matter what is said.

So I'll let you get on with it and enjoy yourself.

But meanwhile, I wonder if you would mind answering the question BIWI asked?

I think we have to make a judgement on it if we have daughters. It isn't enough to simply think 'some women do it for reasons that are none of my business and I will just bring my children up as if we live in a cultural vacuum where people do things for utterly random reasons that have nothing to do with society and will have no impact on my child.'

Ok.

For the last time.

NO ONE IS CONDEMNING HER. THEY ARE CONDEMNING A CULTURE THAT MADE HER FEEL SO BAD ABOUT HERSELF SO THAT SHE HAD BAGS OF SILICONE SUGICALLY INSERTED INTO HER BODY TO MAKE HER FEEL BETTER ABOUT HERSELF.

Indeed, Clothes.

"that women seem to love the opportunity to sneer at those that chose cosmetic surgery."

I'm sneering at a culture which fetishes breasts and youth and appearance, so that some mothers feel the need to subject their bodies to surgery in order to have good self esteem.

I feel sorry for women who are willing to risk their health in order to change their bodies in this way. I don't sneer at them. They are the victims of our fucked up culture.

Cassette, pls answer the question if you can. Why as you say a well-educated, good-looking woman (in or outside a loving relationship) would choose a breast enlargement? And we are not talking about cases, such as severe asymmetry, mastectomy or "failure to develop"...

Do you think that it's a self-hating woman thing to take EVERYTHING as a personal criticism? Because it happens a lot on these boards. Wonder if men do it as much.

Haven't ( mostly ) women been disfiguring themselves for thousands of years across the globe in the name of beauty ?

I'm not condoning it , but is it really our culture, or is it something else ?

15 year old girls now feel inadequate because they can't get skinny and have large boobs. It isn't possible.

It is possible, all down to genes. My sister was size 8, 5'8 and had 34gg boobs. She was a lucky sod.

I was roughly same size but was as flat as a pancake. If i could have afforded a boob job when I was younger I would have had one. Twenty years later and I still wouldn't rule it out!

ok, sorry x-posted with many

Culture that makes women feel inadequate should be challenged.
I am not going to put up with it when I will be raising my dd (17 wks tomorrow). I would not put up with it was I to raise a son. My children should not be conditioned to our backward culture that drive some to view normal bodies as inadequate and others to go under the surgeons knife. I am flabbergasted that some parents think it is perfectly acceptable.

"My sister was size 8, 5'8 and had 34gg boobs. She was a lucky sod. "

I always thought "lucky" is to be healthy and happy and maybe financially secure. But then it is me