To think that the West is seriously fucked up on the bosom front?

[Hullygully]

Bags of poison sewn into our infant feeding parts.

How fucked up is that?

Homemade that is really sad xx

When you fall in love with a person, the size of their tits/knob/bum/nipples/beef curtains/ wrists/ toes etc doesn't come into it. You love them. The end.

Nobody really likes a girl and then thinks, shame her tits aren't a few sizes bigger, then I'd marry her.

YANBU OP.

it is all very sad.

Yes, Chandon, you are right. was only thinking of the west as I live here. West-centric, moi.

Can I introduce you to this site?

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I shall be sitting down with my big busted (but inverted nippled) 12 year old dd at some point and looking at these together.

I urge you to do the same with your dd's.

I have poison in my boobs, I have breast fed three kids. I had them filled back up after years of BF left my boobs like empty bean bags. I had such a small implant (i have always had small boobs!) and nobody even noticed.

OP and what? Up yer bum and all that jazz. Enjoy your sneering.

shagmund - thanks for that.

I shall make both dd and ds look at it.

deflatedballoon - please don't think it is sneering. No one has sneered. It is your choice and your right to make that decision. This is simply saying how sad it is that we as women feel we have to have this surgery, especially now that the dangers have become so apparent.

i know a few women who have had them done. my friends look silly very round and another friends mother had implants after having a mastectomy, she is very well and happy now and i can totally understand why she wanted to have it done

so i would not always say it is foolish. i personally would love a reduction my boobs are just too big

These implants are advertised heavily in loads of womens magazines,promoted with "easy" payment options. I remember someone telling me one magazine was even offering this procedure as a prize in a competition.........this would have been unthinkable not long ago.

So YANBU

There is blatant sneering Hully Gully!

The irony of talking about implants and the super amount of bosom hoicking is astounding!

shagmundfreud that site is great! I'll be showing that to DD later and equally-importantly DS, when he is old enough. Although at 4.5 and still BF when he can catch me, he probably has his priorities right anyway

Well, I am sorry you perceive it to be that way. We shall have to agree to differ.

It's none of my business, cassette. That doesn't mean I can't find it sad that we live in a culture where women are driven to have this sort of unnecessary and dangerous surgery, surely?

It is equally none of my business if someone injects themselves with heroin every day, Id still find it sad!

My 11 dd was listening to a report about this on R4 yesterday and cannot understand one bit why anyone would have this done.
The R4 discussion said that girls were having implants which looked deliberately fake, as they were like a status symbol, somewhat like a porsche.
I guess that in this context (and I am not criticising anyone who is having 'natural looking' surgery for medical/serious psychological reasons) they also symbolise that you are willing to do something pretty major and detrimental to yourself for the benefit of meeting a man's warped view of what a synthetic woman should look like. Guess that goes hand in hand with the brazillian and the labial surgery.
Its worrying that the loss of sensation is deemed unimportant relative to the visual appearance - wonder if the same applies to the labial surgery? Ironic that this seems to stem from the porn industry, but actually affects the woman's sexual enjoyment. Not quite sure what that says. as someone upthread said - how long before full circumcision is a potential - that really will complete the Barbie-doll look, and get rid of all those ugly flappy bits that might upset men.....

sorry, went off on a bit of a rant there.....

I personally don't want them, but i do know that for women with fleabites and those who have lost breasts, implants are a godsend to personal confidence, which does make all the difference to feeling normal and attractive.

What I think really needs to be attacked hard is the media's portrayal of airbrushed and siliconed celebrities as the "norm", as most women will just follow what they perceive as succesful.

I'm also not convnced its men pushing for more fake boobs that is driving it, I think its women following these media induced fashions.

I would not like no feelings in my nippular areas. That would make me v. sad. Not that I'm ever planning to do sex again, but you know, if I were, they're kind of important.

How long does one do the 10 year replacements for? My Grandma, aged 90, has just had a mastectomy for cancer. Do you think she ought to have opted for reconstruction in case she gets bullied for being flat chested? [puzzled] Or is it only women who are man-catching age that need mahossive bazongas?

I have saggy, crepey skinned 32FFs. They're fucking stunning, and any man or woman who gets a look is quite frankly very lucky. I've no bum though, maybe I should get surgery for that?

"OP YABU. It's their choice and what business of it is of yours what other women choose to do with their bodies?"

It's all our business if a culture has been created that results in healthy women finding it necessary to undergo major surgery and various types of mutilation in order to preserve their self esteem as human beings.

and plastic surgery is big business in china it is not just an obsession in the west. very popular in parts of south east asia too (and not always for women)

"how long before full circumcision is a potential - that really will complete the Barbie-doll look, and get rid of all those ugly flappy bits that might upset men....."

There was an article about cosmetic genital surgery a few months back in the Observer.

It said that the current fashion is for a vag which looks like a 'clamshell'. Smooth. Hairless. Just a slit with no flappy bits. Preferably with the labia majora plumped out a bit so it looks pneumatic.

Fucking hell Shagmund now I really have heard it all shock

Wouldn't it be nice if all the money that was spent on chopping bits of ourselves off and adding other bits on, was spent on feeding a few starving people here and there?

Yanbu I agree completely hully
Pressure on young women to conform to this ridiculous pornstar image is massive yet like many others most men I know think "plastic, unattractive,etc when they see these images.
Maybe the problem stems from younger men who have grown up with influences of porn.
I have 3 boys and will do my best to teach them to respect women for who they are.

And I agree re brazilians WTF!!!

The first time I heard about them I thought it was pretty sick that a man would desire a woman to look pre-pubescent but it's becoming the normal. ( I still think it's sick btw)

I am told by a group of 19yo teen mothers they aren't keen on breast feeding as they don't want to change the shape of their breasts, sad and shocking.