to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

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I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

Yeah, yeah, some people always make out their situation is worse than it is. Not very nice to be judged is it OP?

You've just dissed a whole swathe of people, including people with the kind of disabilities your nightmares are made of.

You can dish it out, but don't like it back do you?

You can get dla and be in work. You can get dla for your child which means that you are healthy and in work.

Sevenfold..... Did hq ever say anything would be done about these threads? I remember some time ago there was a 'fuss' . Rightly so too.

Op.... Where are you unable to go on holiday to? Most people could do a week at a campsite in uk/ haven. Or is that beneath you?

OP do you understand the meaning of GDP and what people over the world exist on? And you are complaining about having no money with 25k a year? Are you actually serious? You have a house and a car, a partner, furniture in your house, food, heat and clothes on your back...

Yet rather than congratulate yourself and heave a sigh of relief at your good fortune to be born in a country where you have it so easy you want more... But not by working harder an getting better wages, not by improving your mindset into what you see as important, but by hating other people you see as being better off with. I actual understanding of their situation.

Try living in sub-Saharan Africa, or I don't know... Reality?

loopsylou You find me someone who would employ me and I will work. I need regular hospital admittance for brain surgery, I am in bed most of the time as I am in far to much pain to get out of bed as soon as I stand up my head really hurts or I feel so sick and the room spins, I am on morphine for the pain, I am also partially sighted.

You can have my illnesses that the NHS caused aswell as me being partially sighted through the complications aswell as all of the pain and brain surgeries (6 last year and my first one for this year is in 2weeks the surgeries work for a few weeks then it fails again), the pain I am in daily, not being able to take my 3 year old to the park as I can't see properley, the worry of going blind withing a year, my partner had to quit working to care for me, I lost my dream home as we could not afford the mortgage and we have to rent, we get a 1/4 of what we used to get. I get DLA and my partner gets carers allowance for me, and I will live you life. What I wouldnt give to see my DD in her wedding dress, see DD's children, see her start school even as I most likely be blind then.

Actually whilst someone may be on benefits there may be a whole host of ways they "can afford" extras like holidays which you would have no way of knowing about eg another friend/family paying, a windfall of some kind or that in fact unbeknownst to you they eat nothing but Tesco Value baked beans.

The majority of people on benefits are not living it up , of course there will be a few who abuse the system just like at the opposite end of the scale with big tax dodgers. Thats life.

Well as nice fancy cars and a big house would be that is not exacly what I am after here.
I simply don,t think that people on benefits who are still capable of doing a job should get everything thrown at them

Where is your 'cheapest place to buy clothes'?

unless claimants are seriously working the system then I fail to see how they can afford to do anything except just live. its not a lot of money. I am recently redundant and am entitled to claim JSA for 6 months cos I paid into the system by working since I was old enough to. I get 67.50 a week. I previously earned around £400 a week, massive difference in my lifestyle. I have savings cos I worked, a bit of redundancy and a partner who is earning so I wont starve or lose my home. However if I was relying only on this amount it would be very hard so try it before you judge, not everyone claiming benefits is a layabout shameless type and actually I will not feel guilty for claiming 6 months benefits as I have worked for the last 35 years.

OP, you do not that not all disabled people are stuck in a wheelchair, don't you? You can't tell by looking...

What makes you the judge of whether they are capable of working or not?

who decides who is capable of doing a job OP? Because it sounds just a smidgeon like you think it should be YOU .

Who are you to judge if people are capable of doing a job??! Do you know the hoops you have to jump through now to be entitled to anything? My father is in a wheelchair, paralysed from the neck down from an accident when my mother was pregnant with me. He was lucky not to have died and was dropped on the way to the ambulance a few times as they allowed his friends to carry him...Maybe he wouldn't have a broken neck if it wasn't for that.

My dh is also disabled but not in a wheelchair, he's in pain constantly and been in and out of hospital over Christmas and for months/years, had a pulmonary embolism, 4 dvts, has lupus which affects him in many ways, ITP which makes him likely to bleed with low platelets plus much more. His is a complicated case but a lot of the time he finds it hard to even walk or use his hands as he also has joint problems. He was working up until all this flared up.

There are also mental health issues on top of the physical ones but you can't see those. I've not even said the half of it and nor should I, or he, have to. I'm sure some people look and think he's work shy at times though when he's having a (rare) good day but let's all just judge everyone shall we.

When I was on benefits I was not able to spend spend spend.

Ohhh really. And who are you to decide who is capable of doing a job?

Tell us what does capable of doing a job mean to you? Honestly I do think you are being shafted here the government should be paying you thousands for your wisdom of such things.

Lone parents?? Do you mean them op?

Go on, have a bash, you have done disabled, do us now!

You are right, of course, Sue, but it is starting to feel like the majority thinks it is acceptable now to 'hate' disabled people - a lot to do with the Daily Mail and the slow but sure poison that the government is spreading about disability fraud etc.
I am disabled, I use a wheelchair, but not in my home or office as I manage about 20 steps before having to sit. I get High Rate Mobility DLA but choose not to have a Motability car as I did not think it was a good use of my money (I did actually purchase myself a brand new car last March and it was much cheaper than getting the same car on the lease scheme.)
I work full time but I worry so much that if I were to be made redundant I would really struggle to get another job - much more so than an able-bodied person. There are things at work that I cannot do and I have to ask for help with. I think that I 'make-up' for it by being very bloody good at my job, but others might not be so lucky.
I also worry that I might lose my DLA because of the pressures on the government to save money.
It feels like every day I get some form of abuse because of my disability. I have been 'told off' for using disabled toilets. I regularly suffer the 'blue badge abuse' accusations that are so often talked about on MN. And, of course, my wheelchair 'gets in the way' so I am regularly shouted at in the street or in shops.

tbh I don't think disabilities are real, they make it up to get money etc. I saw a documentary called Little Britain on tv. It showed how people pretend to be in wheelchairs to get help, was awful.

and my mum aged 64 is on pension credit which is a form of benefit despite working from aged 15 until my sister aged 36, the following year my grandad had to have a arterial bypass and then after that he had to have his leg amputated, i then came along, after which my grandad suffered kidney failure, and dad was diagnosed when i was 1year 2days old with cancer of the throat. She nursed them both until dad went into a hospice and died on 31st of october and grandad was taken into hospital, the day before he died on 26th november. Mum has a bad back, an old shoulder injury and has not had an easy life bringing two children up on her own, she was 18months short for a full state pension. People always assume people on benefits dont want to or havent worked, my mum did and hard at that but she hadnt met the full pension requirements, people therefore assume she was lazy, she wasnt imagine what it would have cost the tax payer if she hadnt of looked after my dad and grandad?

OP, would you like to be in charge of who can work? Do submit your medical qualifications and no doubt extensive experience to the authorities, I'm sure they're interested in keen potential employees?

I have every sympathy with people like backpack of course they should get all the help thats needed.
Its the ones who have exagerated their illness and get the lot and who could still do a job that I don,t like.

So my grandad being confined to a wheelchair was acting? He had his left leg amputated above the knee by the pictures i have seen and a really bad ulcerated foot he couldnt walk on? Is that acting? Is cancer acting? The fact that my dad was so weak he had to be carried by his nephews down the garden path? I dont think so!