to envy/hate people on benefits to be as well off if not better than us

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I know that this post may have some mixed reviews and may even get me slated but I can,t help it.
Someone I know although she is a genuine case her and her husband have as much as me and dh coming in and with a brand new car thrown in for good measure.
I can only dream of a new car and I work my tripe off 5 days a week as well as dh whilst some people can sit at home and get the same income coming in it seems really unfair.

Agree OhDoAdmit

My Grandad was a drunken waster who did sod all; his wide was genuinely disabled (did not leave bed for about 30 years) and so my dad and his siblings worked from about age five if they wanted to eat, pushing people's shopping up hills in their barrow, or selling coke*, or if all else failed poaching and stealing food

*Quite clearly the coal type.

Dawndonna i would agree with you on that. there never has been a program about practically living on benefits (as far as i know). its all polarised into saints and sinners.

Oh and the comment about large families

Can't answer for anyone else but I know our chidlren were all born before DH was amde redundant, people assume otherwise but no way we'd have had 4 if benefit dependent.

See - that is the difference now. If you have lazy wasters of parents you dont have to beg for money to eat now.

The fact that their kids went hungry didnt make lazy wasters work 50 years ago and it wouldnt now.

But people would like to to give it a go anyway.

Well, its not like their kids are going to suffer are they unless they become disabled themselves

bloody lazy disabled people

a lot of people who get DLA are tax payers, or children of tax payers.
it is not an out of work benefit.

a lot of people who get DLA are tax payers, or children of tax payers.
it is not an out of work benefit.

a lot of people who get DLA are tax payers, or children of tax payers.
it is not an out of work benefit.

a lot of people who get DLA are tax payers, or children of tax payers.
it is not an out of work benefit.

And YYY DanJARM- if I can;t find any school hours jobs to apply for with a post grad, how will a disabled person find any?

Once Dh works from home my scope will widen but until then tehre is NOTHING

None of my five children have been born whilst we have been on full benefits. Some were born when we didnt get anything at all (before WTC etc)

Well apart from one of them, as it happens the disabled one, but I didnt give birth to him and OH didnt have anything to do with his conception so there wasnt much we could do about that.

We should have told SS to fuck off when they asked us to care for him. We should have KNOWN this 8 week old baby was going to have multiple SNs AND that OH was going to get MS AND that DD was going to get cancer and die.

Seven can I just ask?

Is DLA an out of work benefit?
Do people on DLA pay taxes?

I am a bit unclear on those points.

Thanks

Nearly went into a shouty sweary rant there to answer those questions!

dla can be paid to someone in or out of work . You can bet dla and pay tax.

Am glad you asked that Mrs DV as I was wondering too. She didn;t seem too clear on the matter.

Ha Ha
You nearly shouted at me

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere yes DLA is not an out of work benefit.
people claiming it are often tax payers

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere yes DLA is not an out of work benefit.
people claiming it are often tax payers

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere yes DLA is not an out of work benefit.
people claiming it are often tax payers

But can't you get DLA along with an out of work benefit?

Come again?

What about goats? can they get DLA?

I heard a rumour that being disabled can happen to anyone and we are all a bus ride away from dependency but that cannpt be true, surely it only happens to lazy people?

I'm not saying that everyone who gets benefits doesn't deserve I would just argue that some people are feckless wasters and know how to play the system. It is not fraud either.
I agree that people who cannot work for whatever reason should be supported by the State.

Lunatic of course you bloody can

Because it is not related to work status

And becuase we have a stonkingly high unemployment rate it would be ludicrous not to expect disabled people and carers not to be more vulnerable to that with the extra help, restrictions on flexibility, time off they may require.

2007, 2 people apply, employ most suitable

2012, 425 apply, at least half of which are perfectly sutable ergo many bosses will hire non disabled person- quite ;possibly (if not rightly) understandably

If it isn;t fraud then they are entitled

If they are a feckless waster youa re playing into deserving poor / undeserving and presumably should go the whole hog and call for workhouses!