To be annoyed after visiting the Feminism section?

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Sorry, i know its Christmas but i got annoyed.

Christ, with all the sniping, anyone would think it was Christmas...

Any excuse to have a go at the Feminists, eh?

Sorry, Youllbewaiting...

Who did the most of the preperations for Christmas in your household?

Me.

Well, you know. I'm always about to lower the tone. Seriously. If OP had a problem, she could have kept it to the thread. AIBU is reknowned for it's hatred of FSWR.

I think the fact/opinion thing is tricky, as the thread about that paper on berries is showing!

But I think what is problematic in the feminism section is that soem things are widely held in society to be facts or at least truisms, and some of them we have debate to kingdom come, so we get fed up with doing it. It's the same anything, though, it's not unique to feminism. Start a thread on P&C parking spaces and you get the same responses. I'd love to say we should all have endless patience but sometimes I do just leave posts unanswered or say something like 'I don't agree' and move on. Is that awful, though?

Btw ... I need to be very clear ... when I say this is 'problematic' in teh feminism section, I do not mean it's the problem of the people who post there (either regulars or non-regulars). I mean it's a difficulty that is, IMO, going to keep cropping up and one which it's not really fair to blame on 'the feminism section' unless you have a solution to it (which looking at AIBU etc., obviously no one does have).

Crikey I'm incoherent this morning. Time for more coffee ...

This thread is much nastier than anything that's posted in the feminist section.

If it annoys you, don't read. I don't read S&B because I find the topic a bit irritating. I don't start threads slagging off the section and having a go at the people in there.

{hands LRD a coffee}

Seriously, if you don't like a thread, debate your point on the thread. Once you leave the thread, build a goddamned bridge and get over it.

'but sometimes I do just leave posts unanswered or say something like 'I don't agree' and move on. Is that awful, though?'

It's what I do, sometimes particularly if it is someone whose opinion I usually respect and I don't want to argue over something small. It has to be a deal-breaker for me to get stuck in and not let go, and that is purely a matter of opinion.

For example, I did exactly that on the male/female brains debate thread.
I have a lot of time for Simon Baron-Cohen's theories and have been part of the looking glass world that is ASDs for decades. But there were other posters who didn't, so I disagreed and left. Because I wasn't really prepared to get passionately involved with a debate touching on something as personal as that to me.
Last time I did, I lost the plot rather and ended up very angry.

Maybe it's because one of the posters says 'even Santa's a man'

Merry Patriarchymas!

That's a bit global puffin. You mean all MNtters, on every thread? From those yelling smash the system to those choosing a babydoll fluffy nighty in the hope that their man will like it and be kind?
All contaminated regardless of individuality?

I'm always bemused by criticism of the Feminist section, it was one of the things that made me feel mn was worth coming back to when I had just joined.

It seems, like the Doghouse, people see posters as one entity rather than just a group of individuals talking about stuff, who also post elsewhere and have differing opinions. Yes, there's a common interest and broad agreement on a few principles, but they are positive and supportive, not restrictive or excluding.

I am fed up with being constantly told how 'lucky' I am because my dh does literally everything for christmas - he buys and wraps all the presents, does all of the preparation, cooking and washing up and has today, while I've been in bed all morning, has taken the children to the gym. Oh and hoovered, and cleaned the mess up.. Am I 'lucky'? Or have we just sorted out our 'roles' in a way that suits us?

Yes, Dust. All MNers. Everyone who uses these boards. Because I read an OP I though was daft, so I think you're all silly and giving mothers a bad name.

people give people a bad name.

so called people all over the place giving the rest of the people, the actual people, a bad name.

Wow MNHQ have been busy with the big red editing pen!! Makes things slightly less easy to follow.

'This is a really stupid thread. You give MNers a bad name.'

Oh no . The world as we know it will come to an end....
Oh wait. Its an internet forum. Who gives a rats arse.

I got deleted?
Was that because I compared a poster to an attention-seeking toddler?

I think everybody who posts in AIBU is a gaslighter

It does make me smile when it's written that MN isn't moderated.

I think it's one of the most heavily censored sites I've been on.

I saw it happen once, so it must be true for everyone

there is that perspective that needs taking, Kal. Feminism and the struggle for equality of treatment pre-dates the MNFS and will be around long after it has gone - and there is plenty of other opportunity, both on-line and off-line to effectively engage. Significant progessions have been made by women, and some men, who would run a mile from being described as 'feminists'.