To be hopping mad about this?

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My Dds (twins aged 14), have just returned from a school trip to Germany.

Whilst there, they and other girls in the group had their bums felt/slapped by German boys of 17/18 yrs.
This happened frequently in markets, shopping centres etc.
They were all horrified by this, and told a female teacher in her 20s, who told the girls it was their own fault for wearing skinny jeans and leggings!

Am writing letter to school about it.
A friend suggested I am overeacting to cultural differences, and the girls should be flattered!
Tbh I am angry at teacher's response mostly.
What do you think?
Has anyone else experienced this?

"Nothing is foolproof, but surely if something reduces the probability of assault its worth looking at?"

But it doesn't.

So it's not.

Wot Tethers said.

Tethers was it you that said on another thread a month or two back that most rape victims are wearing jeans at the time of assault? I don't want anyone to spend time or money on actually doing a study into women's clothing when raped because, again, wrong focus, wrong effort, but it would show that all this advice to women to not wear this, don't do this, do this was a complete and utter waste of public resources.

But I know that even if people with views like whatmeworry were to take on board that most rape victims were wearing jeans at the time of assault, this thread sadly demonstrates that their next question would be - well what were the cut of these jeans? Bootleg or skinny? Boyfriend or flares? Because the choice of style of jeans of the victim would be the next magickal thing the woman could have done to avoid being raped. Other than not having the utter misfortune to cross paths with a rapist, intent on raping someone. Oh no. That's not what leads to rape is it?

IRA bombers

But it doesn't. So it's not.

Except in this case it did, so it is.

You are welcome to believe whatever you believe and act accordingly yourselves, wear bikinis in Saudi soukhs etc, its your right.

But when you try to force teen girls to to do as you say when there is no evidence supporting your view (in fact the evidence was you were wrong) then you are acting irresponsibly.

"Except in this case it did, so it is."

How?

"But when you try to force teen girls to to do as you say when there is no evidence supporting your view (in fact the evidence was you were wrong) then you are acting irresponsibly."

Telling them they won't get sexually assaulted if they wear baggy clothing for example?

Which bit of the OP's admission that the teacher's intervention worked didn't you understand?

You just hate this example, don't you - because it gives hard evidence that your ideology is based on false assumptions.

Please point it out for me.

You seem quite upset- are you ok?

Do you mean where the OP said:

"Yes the boyfriend jeans stopped it."

Because I would love to know where the evidence for this is. Did the girls go back to the same shopping centre and were not sexually assaulted by the same boys? Who is to say that they would not have been subsequently sexually assaulted if they had continued to wear leggings?

I hardly think the OP's statement constitutes 'hard evidence', do you?

I hardly think the OP's statement constitutes 'hard evidence', do you?

Umm.... "Yes the boyfriend jeans stopped it."

Do stop wriggling, Tethers...makes your bellend jingle :o

Oh dear. If that's what you think of as 'hard evidence', then I'm afraid we've been arguing at cross-purposes the whole time. I didn't realise that was the level you were arguing from.

Ah well, at least you got my nickname. Well done, you