Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think people shouldn't be so selfish

176 replies

Christmasishere · 16/12/2011 18:51

I was listening to the radio the other day and a Mother was talking about how she chose her career/studying over living with her son.
She fell pregnant in her last term of Uni, had the baby, then broke from the Father. She wanted to do a masters in Leeds (or somewhere...can't quite remember) but could not get childcare/appropriate in the city where she wished to study. So, the child went to live with his Father in, say, Birmingham. Her career took her to Norfolk, she found the distance very hard and couldn't think of things to do with her son once she got there. The distance and work commitments meant she didn't see her son much at all while he was growing up.
Now, to most people, she pretends that she doesn't have a child as it hurts her too much to think that she doesn't have a good relationship with her son. She mentioned nothing about how much this would have hurt her son, knowing that his Mother chose work, money etc over raising him, and not choosing to live closer at least.
I had my child young, whilst not being with my now Husband very long. We made sacrifices, but thats just what we did - there was no option - we were a family. Because of the way we threw ourselves into being a family and made it work, we are a very happy little family. Yes, there were things I wanted to do - travel, start a career etc but, it is not our child's fault they came along at a time in our lives when we weren't settled so why should he suffer?
I am not saying everyone should marry someone and set up home with partners they don't want to. All I think is that a career and life dreams that do not fit around the children should come second to raising the children that were brought into this world through no choice of anyones other than their parents.
I just think this women is truly selfish and raising our children should come above all other aspects of life.

OP posts:
NeuromanticisedVisionsofXmas · 16/12/2011 18:53

You don't really mean people, you mean women, specifically mothers. And YABU.

Christmasishere · 16/12/2011 18:54

No, fathers as well. The example was just a Mother.

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 16/12/2011 18:55

Yabu!!!

Since when should life revolve around children??

GypsyMoth · 16/12/2011 18:56

Plenty of fathers pursue things and leave the other parent to it. Plenty

runningwilde · 16/12/2011 18:56

It would seem this woman is bearing the consequences of her decisions now? I personally would not have done what she did and it sounds like an. Incredibly sad situation that she is paying for now.

ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 16/12/2011 18:56

What a shitty, mean and nasty post. I totally agree with Neuromanticised...

Feminine · 16/12/2011 18:57

I can see your point.

Especially as you have lived it yourself.

santastooearlymustdache · 16/12/2011 18:58

i agree, people are very selfish

there was a man on the bus today eating a MacDonalds, did he offer it about, even the chips?

NO HE DID NOT!

the selfish bastard

GypsyMoth · 16/12/2011 18:58

Oh, and please name this magical career which fits perfectly around your child?

What jobs do you and your DH have?

ExitPursuedBySanta · 16/12/2011 18:58

I know what you mean, but then you raise a child to do what, raise another child? I tussle with this on a daily basis. I am bone idle and have chosen to work part time from home and always be here for my DD, but would I want the same for her? Not sure really. Tis the eternal conundrum. If she feels fulfilled by her career then that is her choice. Her son will cope.

cheesesarnie · 16/12/2011 18:58

would it be different if it was the father that chose to better himself by studying?
not everybody is perfect

Feminine · 16/12/2011 18:59

op did you find out how old her son is now?

Rudolfsgottarednose · 16/12/2011 19:00

She obviously hasn't got got an attachment to her child, you cannot force what isn't there.

Forcing her to parent because of a cultural norm would be more damaging, a child should be surrounded by people who have a bond enough/or cares enough about children, to put the childs needs first and who can care for them, this doesn't always have to be a birth parent.

Children can get over not being raised by a birth parent, it is harder to recover from being emotionally neglected by a carer.

Feminine · 16/12/2011 19:02

Oh I thought you meant she just left him there?

He was with his Dad right?

For some reason I can't work that out from your post?

GypsyMoth · 16/12/2011 19:02

He was brought up by his father. What is wrong with that?

StewieGriffinsMom · 16/12/2011 19:02

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GypsyMoth · 16/12/2011 19:03

'selfish' would have been putting him into care with both parents buggering off to uni or persuing a career

NinkyNonker · 16/12/2011 19:04

LittlestLight there is a difference between say, having to work full time un a child unfriendly job and choosing the path this lady took. I thibk it is selfish. I would also say the same of a man, for whom this sort of thing is seen more normal from.

Christmasishere · 16/12/2011 19:04

It is just as bad if it was a father. It was only an example.
Studying can happen anywhere, you don't have to leave your children to study.

OP posts:
IneedAChristmasNickname · 16/12/2011 19:04

My friends DD lived with her GM for the 1st 3 years of her life in Wales. Her Mum was at one uni, her Dad another. She is now a very happy, perfectly normal 27 year old! They both (my friend and his wife) have careers they love, and everyone is a winner.

Feminine · 16/12/2011 19:06

littlest thats what I didn't understand/get, from the first time I read it.

Thats a bit different I suppose.

When she did qualify though, I am wondering why she didn't try and make it work (closer to her son)

For me, there are not enough details from op

helpmabob · 16/12/2011 19:08

I agree with the OP but fwiw I would have agreed with the op if the example she wrote about was about the dad. I do think it is selfish to choose a career that takes you far away from your dc and means you cannot participate actively in bringing them up be they the mum or the dad.

Christmasishere · 16/12/2011 19:09

She did not want to move closer to her Son as she enjoyed where she lived - say 4 hours away from her son.

OP posts:
Christmasishere · 16/12/2011 19:10

helpmabob - well put!

OP posts:
cheesesarnie · 16/12/2011 19:10

what was the show about?