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to think that this was ridiculous...

571 replies

MeltedAdventCalendarChocolates · 11/12/2011 23:17

Sure he probably was lying. Maybe he wasn't and should have had the maturity to handle it differently, who knows, but for a random stranger to handle this KID in this way is horrific!

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KittyFane · 14/12/2011 18:04

He was sold 2 single tickets ? How? I doubt it.
Even if he bought at the self service machine he would press the 'return' button and would get a return ticket.
As for being diabetic - how does that excuse his behaviour? He needs to think about that before causing trouble.
As others have said- a deceitful chancer trying every which way to excuse himself.

maybenow · 14/12/2011 18:15

he hadn't been sold the wrong ticket - he had a linlithgow to polmont ticket and the train was going the other way!!! he was trying to pass off his outward single as a return.

mathanxiety · 14/12/2011 18:17

Well done Big Man.

Have been on Dublin buses when similar incidents occurred and the round of applause at the end has always been heartfelt.

Why should everyone else be made to wait and perhaps miss connections while waiting for the police while while some spoiled teenager makes an eejit out of himself waiting for his rights to be acknowledged? Why should paying passengers on a full bus or train stand or be left at the stop while someone who didn't pay occupies a seat?

If he wanted to play Teenage Hero vs. The Man he should have checked first to make sure he was the biggest and least movable person on the train.

(I have seen the gardai remove people from buses too and it was never a pretty sight. I would take my chances with another passenger any day.)

Jacaqueen · 14/12/2011 18:49

Funny how people assume that 'The Big Man' must be a bouncer or ex police/forces and he turns out to be an investment banker.

CotherMuckingFunticalChristmas · 14/12/2011 20:28

'Little Shit Gets What He Deserved'. About time too. I'm sick of people thinking they can get away with any form of behaviour/crime they choose because no one can touch them.

If someone had posted on here "AIBU... I was trying to do my customer service job when someone decided they didn't need to pay for their goods/service. When I told them they had to pay or leave, they started swearing at me and holding up all the other customers. Their manner was vile and offensive. AIBU to feel I shouldn't have to put up with this when doing my job?" there would have been hundreds of posts saying YANB, what a twat, blah blah blah. And I would bet money on there being a few posts asking why no one else stepped in to help.

FanjoForTheReindeerJumper · 14/12/2011 20:37

from his dad's facebook page..his mate posted:

"i seen it. shocking lenny. im sure at one point in our life we have all tried to bump a train. the guy should be done with assault"

says it all to me!

FanjoForTheReindeerJumper · 14/12/2011 20:40

and from the guys own friend (asterisked by me)

"So many things that big guy could have done before just doing that. Talked to you, paid the fair for you, got who ever you were with to give money towards it, didnt have to act like that. and c*ts clapping. Gay. Though you didnt really help yourself out by swearing and shouting man. but hey, heat of the moment, id have spat on the c*t lol"

poor hard done by innocent student Hmm

redlac · 14/12/2011 20:45

Fanjo I've had to stop myself from looking at the wee gets Facebook - the sycophantic congratulations on there made me want to stab out my own eyes!

FanjoForTheReindeerJumper · 14/12/2011 20:46

yes he is loving every minute

FanjoForTheReindeerJumper · 14/12/2011 20:47

yes, I loved the "Everyone's sharing this video of you sir, your the next tram lady it's a belter min, aye haha this burd abusin darkys and that on a train. was on the news and that.. your destined for big things."

from one of his lovely eloquent mates

lurkinginthebackground · 14/12/2011 20:49

And he is a university student! Hell shows just how brainless you can be to go to uni these days.

redlac · 14/12/2011 20:49

It makes me despair it really does! wasnt like this in my day

frumpet · 14/12/2011 20:51

The man who got thrown off the train , could have prevented the situation by leaving when he was asked to . If when the 'big man' had got hold of him ,he could of said 'alright i'm leaving ' thus diffusing the situation. He chose not to leave when asked . Do i think what the other man did was assault , well i have watched the clip 5 times now ,and honestly ive seen more violence at a Boden sale event .

PumpkinIroning · 14/12/2011 20:57

Sickeningly disgusting and thuggish behaviour by the 'investment banker'. He'll no doubt turn out to be a loan shark,raking up 2500% interest with menaces. The train shouldn't have been stopped for one drunken kid.
Staff should have called the station ahead, so the student's details could have been taken,and he could be fined. That monster could have killed him.

redwineformethanks · 14/12/2011 21:07

I thought the conductor was quite dignified and calm

Jacaqueen · 14/12/2011 21:52

He is a proper investment banker. Works for BlackRock as a performance Manager.

Lindax · 14/12/2011 22:30

hopefully that kid learned a lesson today. you dont treat people like that. a bad attitude isnt going to get you anywhere, and if you do this to your elders and around young children someone will stand up to you and help them out.

from the video it looks to me as if excessive violence was not used when "helping" him off the train

if this was my son his wee face scrape would be nothing compared to the earache he would get to drop the assault complaint and apologise to that poor old conductor who hopefully won't be disciplined for accepting the other mans help!

jasper · 14/12/2011 22:43

I loved the youtube follow up comment

"look on the bright side , he learned more about the way the real world works in two minutes then he'll learn in three years at university"

redwineformethanks · 14/12/2011 22:46

jasper - that's brilliant!

jasper · 14/12/2011 22:54

that's what I thought, redwine Grin

sozzledchops · 14/12/2011 22:59

I've looked at his FB page. What do you expect a bunch of his mates to be saying, they are all young kids, of course they are going to find this funny. It's all rather tame and the lad in question has hardly commented on it - you all seem to be reading it differently to me. He's actually probably really embarrassed by it all and probably would have went home with his tail between his legs and learned a lesson. Someone filmed it and put it on YouTube and suddenly he's all over the press and TV, that wasn't his doing and is what could bring the Big man some trouble as well.

And it was violent, yo can see him being slammed right down on the platform the second time the big man grabs him. Don't forget these laws on assault are here to protect all of us, it's not about this young guy.

LineRunnerCrouchingReindeer · 14/12/2011 23:10

They're not young kids. They are 19 - 21. Like a lot of our troops serving abroad.

thementalist · 14/12/2011 23:19

I presume everyone mentioning the term "Big Man" hasn't seen chewing the fat...I presumed it was a reference to that...."Is there a problem here" and the big man sorts it out.

I have been on a train several times with idiots like him, I have also confronted idiots on the train too (a group of around 20 drunk young guys on a stag do...DP nearly killed me) and I would have clapped as this idiot got thrown off too.

thementalist · 14/12/2011 23:26

Sorry total overuse of the word idiot...the clip annoyed me Blush

LineRunnerCrouchingReindeer · 14/12/2011 23:29

I want to hear more about your own Big Man episode!