to think that this was ridiculous...

[MeltedAdventCalendarChocolates]

Sure he probably was lying. Maybe he wasn't and should have had the maturity to handle it differently, who knows, but for a random stranger to handle this KID in this way is horrific!

AIBU?

Yes Kid thrown off train like ragdoll . Not seeing it myself.

Absolutely. Please rename thread as "Jumped up, freeloading gobshite youth (who is an adult in the legal sense) handled a bit roughly but quite reasonably after acting like an utter knob and holding up the journey of a train full of people".

If they'd held the train at that station until the police could have been called, several hundred people would have been inconvenienced on that train alone, not to mention other trains delayed by it blocking the platform, or subsequent trains being delayed because staff or the driver were stuck at this platform rather than being able to get to their destination and move on to the next job. Train schedules are tight, and there could have been major delays on trains for the next hour as a result of this one obstructive adolescent and his 'What are you going to do?' attitude.

What about elderly people or parents with young children, stuck on that train or missing their connections because the train has to wait for the police? Hundreds and hundreds of people (who had paid for their tickets) could have had their days significantly disrupted, thanks to one selfish young man. Except that a concerned citizen intervened to help the elderly ticket inspector do his job, with the full support of everyone else in the carriage. The boy was ejected, prevented from getting back on, and the train left the station. Hundreds of people weren't inconvenienced after all.

That looks like a positive outcome to me.

incidentally, he is 21.

He's a man, and I don't think he was thrown like a rag doll. He tried to get something he hadn't paid for, was aggressive in his manner to the conductor and tried to fight back with the man that had removed him from the train.

I have no problem with pests like this being given a very, very light pasting and being embarrassed in front of a carriage full of people.

Sympathy for the devil
Fare dodging rude arrogant aggressive - what should we have done ?? 21 is well and truly an adult

He was 21? Wow makes me see it in a different light. I assumed he was about 12 or 13.

well, he has commented on the YouTube page, his YouTube page has vids of him from his phone, and says he is 21

Very well done.

That aggressive little now knows that there are boundaries and he is not invulnerable.

Well, I think all three of them behaved appallingly.

The conductor was winding him up, the boy was being deliberately awful, and it was no business of the other man to get involved.

The conductor should have said 'no thank you' to the man, and after finishing his job, sat with the young man until the end of the journey and escorted him to the ticket office at the station/ had somebody in authority meet them at the station.

the conductor wasn't winding him up! He was doing his job - no ticket no train ride, get off at the stop

I disagree a little, saying 'we can sit here all night' in my opinion made matters worse.

If he'd kept repeating "I'm sorry, you must either pay or leave the train, the ticket you have is not valid", that would have been fine.

But I also think he was wrong to accept the other man's help.

Since we don't see the beginning of what happened perhaps that had already been said and the wee ned was having none of it?

I don't think the conductor foresaw how it would go down and probably didn't realise the guy was going to physically lift him out of the chair and sling him off the train.

FUcking HELL! I hope they prosecute that big bastard!

What a bully. I don't care if he had a ticket or not, he clearly thought he had, or maybe he didn't, but he didn't not deserve that. He could have been injured. What if he was stranded miles from home.

So angry!

the poor thing

He was at it - he clearly knew he didn;t have a ticket - if he had admitted it and got off when the conductor asked him to get off or even stayed off once they got him off instead of repeatedly trying to get back on it wouldn't have happened.

it happened in East Central Scotland, not the middle of the highlands! His stop is about 15 minutes away by car, in fact I have walked from Linlithgow to Falkirk so its hardly 100 miles away and it was probably about 4.30 when it happened (it gets dark up here quick in the winter)

I think people need to respect each other mire. The lad was rude though.

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the little bawbag did deserve it. If this was revesed and they sat waiting for ploice etc, someone would have started a thread suggesting someone just throw the little prick off the train.

I don't see his 'crime' as being relevant. If it was I guess you could defend that member of the public doing anything to him to get him off the train. Punching him and knocking him out for example - that would have made it much easier to get him off the train

Would it not have been more sensible to stop him on the way out of the station if he was travelling without paying? Instead of hold everyone up.

Looked quite violent actually, if I got into an altercation with someone, I wouldn't expect to be manhandled like that. They should have phoned ahead and got the transport police to meet the train, the man/boy didn't look a physical threat to anyone.

How old was the kid though?

Not more than 10?

If my son had found himself on a train, and realized he had the wrong ticket, say, I bought him the ticket, and bought the wrong ticket by mistake, like a single not a return, he would have panicked. He would not been able to explain, or articulate what happened. Might not been able to move, might have tried to get back into the train. He might have sworn....

It is a shame when grown men assault kids and are applauded. The police should have been called.

Quint, he is 21.

He is 21!!!!!!!!!

Quint he's 21 and boasting about his fame on FB!