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AIBU?

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Original poster

Dog off lead running at DD in park

480 replies

megcleary · 26/10/2011 16:19

AIBU to have roared at man who said oh he won't hurt her.

My comments on his dog owning skills included the fact there is no sign on the dog to say he won't attack DD, the dog should be on a lead, sign as you enter park and the dog did not return/ respond when he called it.

His response was to tell me to shut up.

I hate dogs on the loose in the park.

OP posts:
thetasigmamum · 27/10/2011 13:37

Dooin I think you need to stage a recount. There are at least two dog owners active in this thread who clearly think that it is fine for their dogs to approach people.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:38

No mention of On lead in your quote sardine. Of the many parks round here only 1 insists on a "on lead" policy. Parks in general are a different matter

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:38

More recently

"Yes YABU. No need to roar at the poor man."

No mention of the fact that the man was breaking the rules, that his dog wouldn't come when called, that the dog jumped up at her child, that when she pointed out dog should be on lead he told her to shut up.

Yes, poor man.

Original poster
megcleary · 27/10/2011 13:39

I wouldn't know what a staffie was.
I was roaring at the owner to act, DD and I are not phobic, she sees friends dogs and is fine.
This dog was out of control.

OP posts:
SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:39

Come off it golden.

That post was right at the beginning of the thread in direct response to the OP and clearly says she is BU and gives the reasons.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:40

It was the sixth response.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:41

But makes no reference to dog owners having the right to ignore On lead signs

DooinMeCleanin · 27/10/2011 13:41

'"YABU - parks are for dog owners as well and dogs should be exercised off the lead. I actually think that dog owners have the hard time because so many children wonder around with snacks or there are snacks in the buggy or bread to feed ducks etc which is always going to attract them. If YOU don't like it, then go to the playground."

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:42

golden what are you on about.

it was in OP's post.

Response was she was BU and said why.

Why are you defending that post? You don't have to - you didn't write it.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:42

Even if you do accept the wording in the way you are suggestion it, which I don't but IF I did, there are at least 5 dog owners to every 1 person similar to the one in your, slightly dodgy, example, who say it is NOT acceptable.

I do think the OP was being unreasonable to ROAR, but certainly not to REACT

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:45

Yes that's true.

But people have been insistent that all dog owners think the way that some of you do.

However there are posts which say different. And you can't speak for all dog owners. I guess you want to think they are all like you. But they aren't, are they. Some are like the man in the OP, and some like that will post on MN.

DumSpiroScaro · 27/10/2011 13:49

OP -YANBU at all.

I doesn't matter if you 'know' (and frankly I don't think anyone can claim to 'know' no matter how good a dog owner they are/how compliant their dog has been to date) that your dog is 'good', comes when it's called, is small, wouldn't hurt a fly...etc, etc...

That is not necessarily how others will perceive it, particularly small children to whom even a little dog can appear huge, especially if it is running at full pelt or prone to jumping up.

There was a sign stating dogs should be on a lead and the owner of this dog was totally in the wrong and inconsiderate.

There are plenty of places where dogs can be exercised off the lead, fields, downland or as Andrewofgg says in a fenced back garden. If those facilities are not available to you, don't get a dog.

rubyrubyruby · 27/10/2011 13:49

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Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:50

Of course "ALL" dog owners don't feel the same. Some beat their dogs, some leave them home all day, some treat them amazingly, some show at crufts, some think Caesar Milan is god. No one group of people EVER agree. Not all parents have the same views, not all dog owners have the same views, but on this post MOST dog people have said PRETTY MUCH the same thing. You seem intent on finding the exception to prove us "wrong" but it does not work like that

I stand by my words that NOBODY has stated on this thread that the man SHOULD have had his dog offlead on a park which states dogs must be onlead. I await with breath that is bated for you to look through every post to twist my words and prove me wrong.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:52

Of course I am OK and you can have your passive aggressive smiley back Smile

I am pointing out that despite assertions from some on this thread that everyone has said the man was BU, in fact there are people who have said otherwise. And I don't understand the people who think that the man was doing the right thing and the OP was U.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:52

On reading that back I'm really overdoing my use of Caps, sorry about that, I'll cut down :)

AWimbaWay · 27/10/2011 13:53

Yesterday I was walking along a pavement with my baby in the pushchair and 2 older children either side. A car, reversing to park, mounted the pavement and was heading straight for my son who was nearest the road. I automatically shouted and kicked the car. The man got out and said he was going to stop. How should I have known this? I didn't know the man or his car, was he a good driver, mounting a pavement in the first place told me not. Did his brakes work well? All I saw was a car heading for my son and I wasn't about to take the risk of him being hit.

In the op's situation she didn't know the owner or the dog, the owner had already shown himself to be irresponsible by disobeying the park sign. I too would have shouted.

I don't have a problem with cars, in fact I own one, I do have a problem with bad drivers. I love dogs and grew up with them but I dislike irresponsible dog owners who have no control.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:53

goldenbrown I have just reposted one, there are others.

If you are so dead set on interpreting them differently to what is actually written then there's not much else I can do.

I wonder if some of this rather liberal interpretation goes on in real life as well, it might explain a lot.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:53

"And I don't understand the people who think that the man was doing the right thing and the OP was U."

You can't understand how people would have a different opinion to you? Then I think you might be on the wrong board

Disclaimer This is not me saying I agree with the above statement

DooinMeCleanin · 27/10/2011 13:54

I don't believe Ruby was being passive-aggressive Sardine. Are you just out to a cause a bunfight? It is seeming more and more like that with each post.

rubyrubyruby · 27/10/2011 13:55

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SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:55

But goldenbrown you have just said that no-one on the thread thinks that anyway.

LoveInAColdGrave · 27/10/2011 13:55

"There are plenty of places where dogs can be exercised off the lead, fields, downland or as Andrewofgg says in a fenced back garden. If those facilities are not available to you, don't get a dog."

I have to say, although it may be hard on people living in cities, that I agree with this. My neighbours have a large dog and a microscopic, unfenced garden. Dogs aren't allowed off leads in the local parks. I think they are cruel in having her and keeping her cooped up - the poor dog almost never gets to have a free run around. As a result (or I suppose maybe because she is just like this...) she is aggressive and barks constantly. But I suppose at least, AFAIK, they don't let her off the lead in the parks (although I would have thought there was a real chance of her biting someone or never being caught again, so I suppose they, thankfully, can't risk it).

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:56

I do not understand why some of you are dead set on defending posts which say the OP was BU, while at the same time saying that you would disagree with said posts, and then denying they exist.

Why not just say, yes some people on this thread said OP was U, and I disagree with them?

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:56

AWimbaWay well said.

Having it put that way I wonder if perhaps I have misinterpreted the OP. I assumed she meant that she "Roared" at the Man in anger after the incident (Which from other peoples responses I don't think I'm the only person to have read it this way) Which in my mind is completely different from a "roar" in fear to attempt to interrupt a behaviour. I can see more sense in this and if it was the case then the op is probably not being unreasonable.

Many people since however, is a different matter :)