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Dog off lead running at DD in park

480 replies

megcleary · 26/10/2011 16:19

AIBU to have roared at man who said oh he won't hurt her.

My comments on his dog owning skills included the fact there is no sign on the dog to say he won't attack DD, the dog should be on a lead, sign as you enter park and the dog did not return/ respond when he called it.

His response was to tell me to shut up.

I hate dogs on the loose in the park.

OP posts:
slightlymad72 · 27/10/2011 13:19

Dooin are you talking about my mother? She has 3 dogs that drag her to the park, she lets wander where ever they fancy, the labrador has a fondness for fishermen and their maggots, the CollieXspaniel thinks its tigger and the Collie wants to be friends with everything, she only picks up shit when she 'sees' it and then has the audacity to tut at my dog who jumps up to say hello when she comes into the house, if she didn't say to him 'Don't JUMP UP' there wouldn't be a problem.

The most annoying thing is if 1 of her dogs does go wondering over to a lead aggresive dog she comes out with one of 2 lines when the dog on the lead acts agrressivly 'Well my dog won't be doing that again stupid mutt' or 'that dog needs socialising or putting down if it can't be controlled'

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:19

I don't think she was talking about the restaurant person.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:19

Because that wouldn't make sense.

TheVampireEmpusa · 27/10/2011 13:21

"'that dog needs socialising or putting down if it can't be controlled'"

Oh yes, heard that one before. While sitting on my dog to keep him still, and they refuse to call their dog back usually. Angry

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:22

But, I'm sorry. If your dog is on a lead surely it IS controlled. Surely that is the BEST thing you can do to control a dog.

TheVampireEmpusa · 27/10/2011 13:22

Well quite Golden, it's a ridiculous thing to say.

slightlymad72 · 27/10/2011 13:24

Vampire, you've met my mother as well?, she does get around. she does the standing and calling at the top of her voice and all 3 dogs ignore her, I've stopped walking with her as I was fed up with getting the 'look' becasue of her uncontrollable dogs.

DooinMeCleanin · 27/10/2011 13:25

No Slightlymad, I am referring to the poster who keeps insisting it is perfectly okay for her to allow her dog to go for 'one more sniff' of an on-lead dog or passer-by, for socialising, of course Hmm. I don't think I have read about your mum's dogs. I skim read and miss posts from time to time.

As far as my dog being socialised goes, he bloody well would be by now, were it not for the idiots who allow their dogs to go bounding upto him, scaring the crap out of him and setting our socialising back to square one.

DejaWho · 27/10/2011 13:25

Reading comprehension sweetie - do you have it?

I said that dogs, like kids, all have their moments. My dog's not interested in your kids - if he doesn't recall - he's off chasing a squirrel, which is why I keep him on lead when I know we're through an area the little bushy tailed bastards frequent.

And theatnameIcan'tspellmum - wasn't my dog that bit your kid, so why would it need to be personally directed to me? I fail to see how I am personally responsible for the behaviour of another dog in another part of the country that I've never met. I know how my dogs behave, I know how they'll react to situations (if I don't they stay ont he lead), I know what they're interested in and they really really don't give a shit about kids - because I've trained them to plod on by and not react to them.

I pay for, and am entitled to use within the terms of their use, the open spaces that the council provides. I'm going to do so. I keep the dog on the lead when it's appropriate, he goes off the lead when that's appropriate. I will continue to do so. If you don't like that, then to be honest - whose problem is that? Our local parks are dog off-lead areas, our local parks are regularly patrolled by the dog wardens who are very pro-active - they've got no concerns over the behaviour of my dogs (and I speak to them fairly regularly as they tend to be parked up having lunch at the same sort of time I'm out)... if the local council tried to change it - I'd be at the forefront of any protest for it. The only area the dogs are excluded from is the fenced off children's play area - so the dogs don't go in there. But yep, I pay for a service and I use it and I'll continue to do so.

As for people "getting in my dogs face" - if they're screeching theatrically as two dogs go past on a lead on the opposite side of the path to them (deliberately as far away as possible) - then yep, I'm doing nothing wrong and the other person's being a fucking moron and I WILL have a go back because I'm not having it. But you're not listening to a word anyone says anyway.

flatbread · 27/10/2011 13:26

I think dooin and vampi are talking about me. Honestly, this is all getting bit absurd. My dog walks off leash mostly and we have never had a dramatic situation of a crying child or a traumatised dog. Get a grip and get on with it.

Are you drama queens or what, because I haven't come across dogs that just eat kids and other dogs...and I will live contently and happily in my more laid back environment, thank you.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:26

Dooin but then you are saying that you accept the views of the other dog owners on this thread that OP was BU as dogs need exercise etc etc.

TheVampireEmpusa · 27/10/2011 13:28

I don't blame you! We had to change our walk times, or even stop walks short, when we knew the repeat offenders were out.

On one memorable occasion we got threatened by a woman's son, because we yelled at her when her dog (for the third time in as many days) ran at and crashed into our on lead dog, causing him to go into a rage.

People like that shouldn't, if only for the reason that they are putting their pets at risk! Let's face it, if they let your dog off lead without it being able to come when called then how are they going to stop it if it runs into a road or something equally dangerous.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:28

But dejawho that is not what you said in your original post.

And I think telling a frightened child to fuck off is just really odd behaviour.

Why not just ignore them?

TheVampireEmpusa · 27/10/2011 13:29

"Dooin but then you are saying that you accept the views of the other dog owners on this thread that OP was BU as dogs need exercise etc etc."

Nowhere have I seen Dooin say that.

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:30

Sardine has ANYONE actually said that the op was being unreasonable because dogs need exercise?

DooinMeCleanin · 27/10/2011 13:31

I never said the Op was Bu. I said roaring in the direction of an out of control dog was a silly thing to do. The dog should have been on a lead in an on-lead area. The dog should remain on a lead in all/most public spaces until it recalls everytime.

Banning all dogs from being off lead is wrong. Dog owners pay tax too. We have as much right to use appropriate areas of the park as you and yours do. This does not mean I think it is okay to allow your dog to be out of control. Out of control dogs piss off everybody, but don't tar all dogs owners with the same brush. The vast majority of us are sensible, considerate folk.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:33

She said "I am seperating 'dog owners' on this thread from the singular idiot who happens to have a dog"

Thus the people who said OP was BU are dog owners who are on the same "side" as her, if there are sides.

I was also going to say, dejawho, that if an adult starts shouting and screaming when they go past two dogs, on leads, on the other side of the road, then I would imagine that they had some kind of mental health problem and that shouting at them to fuck off would not be ideal.

DejaWho · 27/10/2011 13:33

Funnily I know exactly what I said in my original post - and it's the idiot parent yelling at my dog and me that I'd be telling to fuck off. However since you're getting off on deliberately twisting everything thinking you're being soooooo clever picking holes in these nasty dog owners - you're not going to read anything properly are you?

I know my dogs, I know situations I let them off-lead, I know situations they stay on-lead (sometimes these are governed by other dogs that are out in the park... namely a certain terrier named Trevor). I'm not going to stop using parks and open spaces cos the MN hysterics decide they want them to themselves for half-term - we went through this all summer. I don't like many things - I have to deal with them in life.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:33

golden yes they have.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:34

I'm not tarring anybody with a brush.

I'm trying to understand the people who think OP was BU. Because dogs need exercise. Or saying "poor man" with no comment about the fact he was doing everything wrong. And the other comments like that.

DooinMeCleanin · 27/10/2011 13:35

All the dog owners, bar one, have said it is unacceptable for a dog to be allowed to approach people, without their express permission. I really don't know how much more plainly I can put it. Is English your first language Sardine?

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:35

deja why not say that in your original post then. Rather than being so aggressive and saying that sometimes your dogs misbehave and that you pay your taxes so if anyone doesn't like it that's their problem etc etc.

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:36

FGS

here is one of them

"YABU - parks are for dog owners as well and dogs should be exercised off the lead. I actually think that dog owners have the hard time because so many children wonder around with snacks or there are snacks in the buggy or bread to feed ducks etc which is always going to attract them. If YOU don't like it, then go to the playground."

Goldenbrown1981 · 27/10/2011 13:37

SardineQueen Thu 27-Oct-11 13:33:29
golden yes they have.

Funny, you were quite keen on quoting before, now you are less so?

We can all make a good argument if we ignore/twist the facts as you are Sardine

SardineQueen · 27/10/2011 13:37

Some of you are maybe not processing the posts that don't agree with what you think dog owners are saying.