10 Tips to Prevent Rape

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Should this leaflet be handed out to the public?

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2141096

And no, I don't like what this is satirising - that's sort of the point!

Your post does seem further to suggest that you're not too clear on what satire is.

blackout , sorry i didnt get what you ment ,
Im not very good at "getting" sarcasm iykwim

no its ok

like i said i didn't make myself clear

I'm of slight physique, and I wear glasses

Andrewofgg I support a man's right to wear glasses in the street

It's difficult to know what Whatmeworry is talking about without examples, but in general satire is a high risk strategy if there is any chance it being taken straight. So those vile "Nice girlfriend what breed is she" T-shirts are likely to be worn by people who actually think that's a cool thing to say straight.

But this Stop Rape leaflet can very safely be taken straight. If you follow the advice, you won't rape anyone.

The humour comes from the unexpectedness of warning men instead of warning women, not from saying something which is the opposite of what you actually mean.

I am not sure where you have copied that from, and would agree with most of it..

however

Myth Women make up stories about being raped.

Sadly, it is not a myth, and it does happen.

Myth Do not go out alone at any time. Women are most likely to be raped outside, in dark alleyways late at night. This is the best way for a woman to protect herself.

Is not a myth as such. Sorry, but it really is not. As the article goes on to say

However, only 9% of rapes are committed by 'strangers'.

More than 80% of rapes are committed by known men

Apart from the fact that there seems to be a missing 11% there, that is still 9% too many that MAY have been avoided.

How many rapes go unreported? I know of at least 2, and would imagine there are a hell of a lot more, because the woman was raped by a stranger, and knows that she could not identify her attacker, or may not be believed, or just cant face the hell of going to the police and just wants to shut it off (not that I imagine you ever could), or blames herself for it happening.

There are probably many more unreported rapes committed by men who the woman does know.

Figures relating to rape are probably one of the most unreliable that you can get because rape is something that is so personal to the victim that many can not face reporting it.

Good post SGM

In fact, it is not that rare to read of pensioners raped in their homes in the course of a burglary. One may assume they were not sitting there wearing provocative clothing.

People make up stories about being burgled/having their car stolen/making a claim on the insurance, etc. No one takes that as a good enough reason to assume that most victims of crime are lying. The default position is still to assume the victim is telling the truth and try to find enough evidence to find the perpetrator.

Squeakyfreakytoy, do you think that a rape victim might think twice about reporting, in case people like you (who believe that contributory negligence plays a part in rape cases) might be in the police, the judiciary or on a jury?

SGM I would 100% agree with the tattooing of the word rapist on their foreheads. Sadly cant see it happening, but it would be ideal.

Love it.

Ayescream, dont you think that I may have thought twice about it myself.

Dont you think I might be aware that my own contributory negligence could have been something I have thought about many times.

You dont know me. I have reasons for my views, and I am entitled to voice those opinions.

Somebody said something sensible earlier on about the psychology of thinking about rape, the need to tell ourselves that this couldn't happen to me because I am not behaving like the rape victim.

Which in view of what we know about actual rape is total nonsense: people get raped in daylight, teetotallers get raped, people get raped by their bosses, they get raped by a relative, they get raped by their partners, they get raped in their homes, they get raped whilst wearing sensible footwear from Clarks.

"Myth Women make up stories about being raped.

Sadly, it is not a myth, and it does happen."

What moonshine said. People frequently make up stories about having been burgled or driven into or defrauded or mugged.

It wasn't your fault, squeaky. No need to be hard on yourself or others who have been the victim of someone else's criminal behaviour. Really, really, really no need.

Tattooing 'rapist' on foreheads would only tell you who was a convicted rapist, though.

Apart from being a tad medieval.

YY Cory. The thing that really grinds my gears (well, one of the things) is that rape is about sex. It fucking ain't.

Rapists don't give a shit if you're wearing a short skirt or an Edwardian bustle.

SGM, I assumed it was when you said it, but it has been suggested a few times on the thread.

My brother was mugged in the local shopping mall. If he hadn't been there it naturally wouldn't have happened. But I don't get the sense that he blames himself. Perhaps because nobody else does?

Before we start wiuth the shit about women lying about rape... The government has done research on that. Less than 8% of reported rapes are deemed false (The Stern report suggests 3%)

Of these, they include
-Misidentified attackers (eg, the victim has been raped, but accused the wrong person)
-People with mental health issues who, for some reason, genuinely believe they've been raped.
-People who've falsely reported a rape, but not named an attacker at all.

Also, the rate of falsely reported rape is lower than the rate at which most other claims are falsely reported.

Also, the figures with regards to reporting rape are taking from the British Crime Survey. They allow a little leeway, hence the "around", but it's generally pretty accurate and consistent.

Myth Do not go out alone at any time. Women are most likely to be raped outside, in dark alleyways late at night. This is the best way for a woman to protect herself.

Is not a myth as such. Sorry, but it really is not.

It truly is. Very few rapes take place outside in dark alleyways, etc. But that myth is one of the reasons that, for a long time, I refused to accept I'd been raped. And it's why acquaintance rape is so difficult to prove; there's all these rape myths and stigma about rape floating about.